R58 New owner, don't get the lack of love for this car
#1
New owner, don't get the lack of love for this car
Got to tell you I love this car. Have had Vettes, wife has an SLK, and we've shared many funcars. What I don't get is the poor reviews. They keep comparing it to the roomy cooper std and that's like comparing a Porsche 911 or boxter to the Cayenne. The fact that some people don't need all that room makes it wrong?
I actually believe if they had made more of them so people had seen them on lots they would have sold.
They dealer I bought it from said he only got a hand full allocated each year but got more Roadsters. Guess which one he still has on the lot?
Yes, a folding canvas Targa Top option would have helped, and yes most people want more room since they have families, but to me this car was designed as a weekend car like most 2 seater limited luggage cars and they just didn't market it well.
Hey,I don't remember them beating up on the Karman Gia because it wasn't a Bug.
Plan on keeping it a LONG time as a pleasure car.
I actually believe if they had made more of them so people had seen them on lots they would have sold.
They dealer I bought it from said he only got a hand full allocated each year but got more Roadsters. Guess which one he still has on the lot?
Yes, a folding canvas Targa Top option would have helped, and yes most people want more room since they have families, but to me this car was designed as a weekend car like most 2 seater limited luggage cars and they just didn't market it well.
Hey,I don't remember them beating up on the Karman Gia because it wasn't a Bug.
Plan on keeping it a LONG time as a pleasure car.
#2
MtVic
I dont agree I think the problem was pricing the market in that price point was tough.
Used the R58 is a bargain and loads of fun but new for $35k there were better machines to be purchased then this nitch vehicle.
Lets be very clear about the R58 its loads of fun and in city traffic it maneuvers great.
But it just a small econo car with a engine that has a bit morepower then needed in the JCW version.
BTW took mine out on the race track along with a GP version and the R58 with a good driver runs with the GP model.
Ian
I dont agree I think the problem was pricing the market in that price point was tough.
Used the R58 is a bargain and loads of fun but new for $35k there were better machines to be purchased then this nitch vehicle.
Lets be very clear about the R58 its loads of fun and in city traffic it maneuvers great.
But it just a small econo car with a engine that has a bit morepower then needed in the JCW version.
BTW took mine out on the race track along with a GP version and the R58 with a good driver runs with the GP model.
Ian
#3
MtVic
I dont agree I think the problem was pricing the market in that price point was tough.
Used the R58 is a bargain and loads of fun but new for $35k there were better machines to be purchased then this nitch vehicle.
Lets be very clear about the R58 its loads of fun and in city traffic it maneuvers great.
But it just a small econo car with a engine that has a bit morepower then needed in the JCW version.
BTW took mine out on the race track along with a GP version and the R58 with a good driver runs with the GP model.
Ian
I dont agree I think the problem was pricing the market in that price point was tough.
Used the R58 is a bargain and loads of fun but new for $35k there were better machines to be purchased then this nitch vehicle.
Lets be very clear about the R58 its loads of fun and in city traffic it maneuvers great.
But it just a small econo car with a engine that has a bit morepower then needed in the JCW version.
BTW took mine out on the race track along with a GP version and the R58 with a good driver runs with the GP model.
Ian
Agreed well worded ..
#4
Congratulations on the purchase. Would love to see some pictures!
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Looks really good actually. I like the black jack mirror caps.
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#9
Got to tell you I love this car. Have had Vettes, wife has an SLK, and we've shared many funcars. What I don't get is the poor reviews. They keep comparing it to the roomy cooper std and that's like comparing a Porsche 911 or boxter to the Cayenne. The fact that some people don't need all that room makes it wrong?
I actually believe if they had made more of them so people had seen them on lots they would have sold.
They dealer I bought it from said he only got a hand full allocated each year but got more Roadsters. Guess which one he still has on the lot?
Yes, a folding canvas Targa Top option would have helped, and yes most people want more room since they have families, but to me this car was designed as a weekend car like most 2 seater limited luggage cars and they just didn't market it well.
Hey,I don't remember them beating up on the Karman Gia because it wasn't a Bug.
Plan on keeping it a LONG time as a pleasure car.
I actually believe if they had made more of them so people had seen them on lots they would have sold.
They dealer I bought it from said he only got a hand full allocated each year but got more Roadsters. Guess which one he still has on the lot?
Yes, a folding canvas Targa Top option would have helped, and yes most people want more room since they have families, but to me this car was designed as a weekend car like most 2 seater limited luggage cars and they just didn't market it well.
Hey,I don't remember them beating up on the Karman Gia because it wasn't a Bug.
Plan on keeping it a LONG time as a pleasure car.
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#11
MtVic
I dont agree I think the problem was pricing the market in that price point was tough.
Used the R58 is a bargain and loads of fun but new for $35k there were better machines to be purchased then this nitch vehicle.
Lets be very clear about the R58 its loads of fun and in city traffic it maneuvers great.
But it just a small econo car with a engine that has a bit morepower then needed in the JCW version.
BTW took mine out on the race track along with a GP version and the R58 with a good driver runs with the GP model.
Ian
I dont agree I think the problem was pricing the market in that price point was tough.
Used the R58 is a bargain and loads of fun but new for $35k there were better machines to be purchased then this nitch vehicle.
Lets be very clear about the R58 its loads of fun and in city traffic it maneuvers great.
But it just a small econo car with a engine that has a bit morepower then needed in the JCW version.
BTW took mine out on the race track along with a GP version and the R58 with a good driver runs with the GP model.
Ian
If you are just driving in town, the JCW has a lot of power but if you are on freeways and driving uphills, it is mostly underpowered unless the engine is racing in higher RPM in lower gears. This is my experience even with the JB+ installed.
#12
MtVic
I dont agree I think the problem was pricing the market in that price point was tough.
Used the R58 is a bargain and loads of fun but new for $35k there were better machines to be purchased then this nitch vehicle.
Lets be very clear about the R58 its loads of fun and in city traffic it maneuvers great.
But it just a small econo car with a engine that has a bit morepower then needed in the JCW version.
BTW took mine out on the race track along with a GP version and the R58 with a good driver runs with the GP model.
Ian
I dont agree I think the problem was pricing the market in that price point was tough.
Used the R58 is a bargain and loads of fun but new for $35k there were better machines to be purchased then this nitch vehicle.
Lets be very clear about the R58 its loads of fun and in city traffic it maneuvers great.
But it just a small econo car with a engine that has a bit morepower then needed in the JCW version.
BTW took mine out on the race track along with a GP version and the R58 with a good driver runs with the GP model.
Ian
And of course street price is insanely lower, but that's not fair comparison since discontinued.
I was really referring to the reviews I seen. They don't really complain on price, they just beat up on it based upon 4 seat'er version.
#14
$35k ??? The list price for mine new was something like 28-29k back in 2013. My dealer has 3 2015 Roadsters in stock for MSRP stickers 29k-31k.
And of course street price is insanely lower, but that's not fair comparison since discontinued.
I was really referring to the reviews I seen. They don't really complain on price, they just beat up on it based upon 4 seat'er version.
And of course street price is insanely lower, but that's not fair comparison since discontinued.
I was really referring to the reviews I seen. They don't really complain on price, they just beat up on it based upon 4 seat'er version.
They are the reasons I bought a Coupe. Otherwise, I would have never bought a Mini. The cargo space is larger and far more accessible and I never have more than one passenger.
It suits my needs as a daily driver. It is not the ideal car where I live and work now because it is always dirty and muddy but I enjoy it.
#15
I really like mine. Mine was $45K+ new , i did not spend that, someone else did. For my options its very rare and i have added some MINI Goodwood pieces on top of everything, so its very posh. Its been a great car, the rear wing did need adjusted and trunk made some noise , so the buffer were set with the lock. The roof stripes did need replaced. Other then that, its been great. Gets the looks also.
Handles great on the track and feels a little bit smoother in transition then my r56 MCS did.
Handles great on the track and feels a little bit smoother in transition then my r56 MCS did.
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#16
I really like mine. Mine was $45K+ new , i did not spend that, someone else did. For my options its very rare and i have added some MINI Goodwood pieces on top of everything, so its very posh. Its been a great car, the rear wing did need adjusted and trunk made some noise , so the buffer were set with the lock. The roof stripes did need replaced. Other then that, its been great. Gets the looks also.
Handles great on the track and feels a little bit smoother in transition then my r56 MCS did.
Handles great on the track and feels a little bit smoother in transition then my r56 MCS did.
I am sure this is not a daily driver.
#17
I switch between the R52 and the R58, the R58 comes out when its not snowing and i drive it daily in the spring-summer- fall. The original owner had the whole roof painted custom BMW alpine white ( at MINI ) and had custom white stripes at delivery, plus red stripes ( MINI Coupe did not have this option, they came in silver and black ) , the dealership did this for him to the tune of about ~3.5K , they also did the mirror caps, then had it tinted in the rear. He had a full sticker ( not much room left ) and then a add on sticker from MINI with dealer installed options. You get that dealer add on sticker when you almost filled up the main sticker. Back in 2006 there was a R52 JCW full loaded at 50K, it had a full sticker and then every dealership add on you could think of , plus like paint protection...etc
The couple main thing i dont have are the JCW recaros, and autodim side mirrors, the leather/ alcantara dash and knee bolster. But I have the MINI Goodwood leather insert that are going in next. To match the dash.
We have a photo shoot soon here and I will have more updated pics.
My builds here:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-boy-blue.html
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Last edited by ECSTuning; 04-08-2016 at 05:00 AM.
#18
I switch between the R52 and the R58, the R58 comes out when its not snowing and i drive it daily in the spring-summer- fall. The original owner had the whole roof painted custom BMW alpine white ( at MINI ) and had custom white stripes at delivery, plus red stripes ( MINI Coupe did not have this option, they came in silver and black ) , the dealership did this for him to the tune of about ~3.5K , they also did the mirror caps, then had it tinted in the rear. He had a full sticker ( not much room left ) and then a add on sticker from MINI with dealer installed options. You get that dealer add on sticker when you almost filled up the main sticker. Back in 2006 there was a R52 JCW full loaded at 50K, it had a full sticker and then every dealership add on you could think of , plus like paint protection...etc
The couple main thing i dont have are the JCW recaros, and autodim side mirrors, the leather/ alcantara dash and knee bolster. But I have the MINI Goodwood leather insert that are going in next. To match the dash.
We have a photo shoot soon here and I will have more updated pics.
My builds here:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-boy-blue.html
The couple main thing i dont have are the JCW recaros, and autodim side mirrors, the leather/ alcantara dash and knee bolster. But I have the MINI Goodwood leather insert that are going in next. To match the dash.
We have a photo shoot soon here and I will have more updated pics.
My builds here:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-boy-blue.html
There is a lot of far better cars in this price range with better performance, option packages and overall quality.
#19
Yea, its allot , but the MINI is a very fun car. I have driven allot of cars , MINI is the most fun.
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