Replace Fuel Filter
#27
Thanks for the reply, but not sure what the incentive would be as I had already found "the same" ("I think"?) for a buck+ less expensive (including shipping), here:
http://www.partsgeek.com/cart/
If there's "a difference", please, pitch away (sell it to me)...
Last edited by grc123; 04-18-2010 at 10:36 AM.
#28
the aftermarket filters themselves seem to be OK (as far as fit), it is the seals that are provided with these kits that don't fit. I have yet to see them sized properly. I would venture a guess that the filter media on the OE is a better quality as well. If you really want to save what amounts to less than $30 on a job that only needs to be done every 60-100K miles (or never, according to MINI ) then you get what you pay for.
#29
the aftermarket filters themselves seem to be OK (as far as fit), it is the seals that are provided with these kits that don't fit. I have yet to see them sized properly. I would venture a guess that the filter media on the OE is a better quality as well. If you really want to save what amounts to less than $30 on a job that only needs to be done every 60-100K miles (or never, according to MINI ) then you get what you pay for.
#31
#32
The factory considers this a "lifetime" filter, so there is no official replacement interval for it. Unofficially, MINI puts a 100,000 mile lifetime on its vehicles, so I like to replace the "lifetime" parts some time before then. Anywhere between 60 and 90k, it mostly comes down to the kind of driving you do and personal peace of mind
#36
Yellow,
I have a couple questions. In my 2004 Mini Cooper S, my fuel gauge is broken. When I start my car the needle moves up to the empty line then when you turn off the car, the fuel line goes all the way down until you cant see it (Obviously). So, on another post on NM, someone told me that it could be that the fuel sensor might be stuck at zero or it is just broken and it can be replaced or jiggled out if it is stuck. He also said, if those are not the problem, then it might be the pump, which is on the drivers rear side.
I want to go and take a look into the passenger side fuel filter to check if the sensor is stuck or something, but Im scared I might do it wrong or break it. I checked the DIY to changing the fuel filters, and it seems pretty straight forward. I totally dont know how the fuel sensor looks like, or where it is in the filter. Can anybody help me or does anyone know what the problem might be? I want to do it myself if it is possible to save some money, but I just want to make sure. I want some helpful tips removing the filter and stuff. Do i have to change the filter and drain out the dirty fuel if I just want to check the sensor?
I have a couple questions. In my 2004 Mini Cooper S, my fuel gauge is broken. When I start my car the needle moves up to the empty line then when you turn off the car, the fuel line goes all the way down until you cant see it (Obviously). So, on another post on NM, someone told me that it could be that the fuel sensor might be stuck at zero or it is just broken and it can be replaced or jiggled out if it is stuck. He also said, if those are not the problem, then it might be the pump, which is on the drivers rear side.
I want to go and take a look into the passenger side fuel filter to check if the sensor is stuck or something, but Im scared I might do it wrong or break it. I checked the DIY to changing the fuel filters, and it seems pretty straight forward. I totally dont know how the fuel sensor looks like, or where it is in the filter. Can anybody help me or does anyone know what the problem might be? I want to do it myself if it is possible to save some money, but I just want to make sure. I want some helpful tips removing the filter and stuff. Do i have to change the filter and drain out the dirty fuel if I just want to check the sensor?
#37
The float is dangling on the bottom of the whole assembly that houses the filter. It is easily broken if someone is not paying attention when they change the filter. You should be able to easily see if it is stuck.
One sentence of warning. It probably would not be a good idea to see if the float switch is working by turning on the car while you have the housing in your hand. I don't know for sure but my guess is that if you do that it will shoot fuel when the pump on the other side comes on. Again, I could be wrong but I am not sure it would be worth it to try.
Rich
PS-The filter comes with the needed O rings but it should be noted that for some reason it comes with 2 large seals but you only use one.
#38
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http://www.waymotorworks.com/fuel-fi...0-r53-r52.html
Don't try to drain the gas, drive it to empty then do the replacement.
Also FYI if you fill the tank and the gauge still doesn't read. Use the gauge check function to see if it is even working. If it works you may have 2 bad senders or some circuit problem. If you fill it and the gauge goes to 1/2 tank then you just have one bad sender.
#39
I would change the filter but a drain is not necessary.
The float is dangling on the bottom of the whole assembly that houses the filter. It is easily broken if someone is not paying attention when they change the filter. You should be able to easily see if it is stuck.
One sentence of warning. It probably would not be a good idea to see if the float switch is working by turning on the car while you have the housing in your hand. I don't know for sure but my guess is that if you do that it will shoot fuel when the pump on the other side comes on. Again, I could be wrong but I am not sure it would be worth it to try.
Rich
PS-The filter comes with the needed O rings but it should be noted that for some reason it comes with 2 large seals but you only use one.
The float is dangling on the bottom of the whole assembly that houses the filter. It is easily broken if someone is not paying attention when they change the filter. You should be able to easily see if it is stuck.
One sentence of warning. It probably would not be a good idea to see if the float switch is working by turning on the car while you have the housing in your hand. I don't know for sure but my guess is that if you do that it will shoot fuel when the pump on the other side comes on. Again, I could be wrong but I am not sure it would be worth it to try.
Rich
PS-The filter comes with the needed O rings but it should be noted that for some reason it comes with 2 large seals but you only use one.
If I do change the filter, how often should I be changing from that point?
What is the point of draining and what are the benefits of draining? Would I be draining out gas?
How does the sensor look like? Is it supported by something or is it floating? Is it located in the middle of the filter, or outside of the filter?
When you are talking about the float switch, what exactly are you talking about? Are you talking about testing out my fuel gauge needle? If so, so you are saying dont start the car when I still have the line disconnected from the housing?
Thanks a lot for your help!
Paul
#40
The 2 O rings are suppose to be one for each model MINI, but usually the kit just has 2 of the same orings. Put it on the tank then install the sender you life will be much easier.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/fuel-fi...0-r53-r52.html
Don't try to drain the gas, drive it to empty then do the replacement.
Also FYI if you fill the tank and the gauge still doesn't read. Use the gauge check function to see if it is even working. If it works you may have 2 bad senders or some circuit problem. If you fill it and the gauge goes to 1/2 tank then you just have one bad sender.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/fuel-fi...0-r53-r52.html
Don't try to drain the gas, drive it to empty then do the replacement.
Also FYI if you fill the tank and the gauge still doesn't read. Use the gauge check function to see if it is even working. If it works you may have 2 bad senders or some circuit problem. If you fill it and the gauge goes to 1/2 tank then you just have one bad sender.
When you talk about putting on the o rings and then the sender. is the sender the line that connects to the housing or the thing inside that Rich Wolfson is explaining to me?
I heard form some people that you can drain it and drive it to empty. What is the difference between the two options?
When i fill up my tank, it doesnt move at all. It is the same all the time. I turn on my car, the fuel needle just pops up to the empty line and just stays there when on, and drops when car is off.
Thanks a lot!
Paul
#41
Yellow,
I think I didnt say this before, but this problem occurred after i changed my brakes. I started to change my brakes and I didnt have the special tool to compress the pistons from the calipers. So, I had my car jacked up from the rear right over night and half the next day, maybe a little longer. That is why I think this could just be a easy juggle to the sending unit. I think it might be stuck. Anyone?
Thanks again!
Paul
I think I didnt say this before, but this problem occurred after i changed my brakes. I started to change my brakes and I didnt have the special tool to compress the pistons from the calipers. So, I had my car jacked up from the rear right over night and half the next day, maybe a little longer. That is why I think this could just be a easy juggle to the sending unit. I think it might be stuck. Anyone?
Thanks again!
Paul
#42
This assembly so poorly made...
My filter replacement went perfect until it was time to put the cheesy zinc plated POS ring back on. It screws on with the use of the wife's foot pushing down on the white canister, but after being hammered around to the stop, it pops off when she removes her foot. I officially hate her car! Have spent over two hours trying to get the one stupid ring to stay on...
It's crap I tell you...
It's crap I tell you...
#43
^^Install the seal on the tank first. Use some Vaseline and lube the inside of the seal. Then, slide the filter into the tank. Press down until fully seated. Make sure the seal is installed with the "This Side Down" on the down side.
Now you should be able to install the retaining ring easily.
Hope This Helps....
Jim
Now you should be able to install the retaining ring easily.
Hope This Helps....
Jim
#44
#45
I have a 2002 Mini Cooper (NOT S) and I followed the pics exactly, but my white plastic cover looks a little different. When I finally got it open there was not a filter there, but a solid copper colored metal cannister. This looks like a self contained filter. Do you know anything about this?
#46
$34.36 here: This is for a 2003 min cooper though.
http://www.koperformance.com/part-nu...46757196/VAICO
That is with shipping included for me atleast. I hope this fixes my car, but if not its probably time to replace it anyway. Also thanks for that guide.
http://www.koperformance.com/part-nu...46757196/VAICO
That is with shipping included for me atleast. I hope this fixes my car, but if not its probably time to replace it anyway. Also thanks for that guide.
#47
The VAICO filters do not have seals that fit properly. Read my post above about this. Use the OE filters, don't be cheap and try try to save a few bucks on a part you only have to replace every few years or less.
To those of you with multiple questions on how to do this, and how to fix that, take it apart... then you will understand how it goes back together. If you have reservations about taking it apart, then entrust the car to your local mechanic and get it done right.
I realize the reason most of you are here are to save a buck on parts and collectively figure out how to maintain and repair your cars on your own, but not everyone is competent mechanically, or you wouldn't be here. Its not a hard job for the mechanically inclined, but if you can't accept advise from professionals like myself or Way, then why ask?
OK, rant over.
I sell the OE filter for just under $50, as does Way. Please support the vendors here, its how we make a living, and the advertising isn't cheap. Of course you can always start a new thread entitled "I just used cheap parts on my MINI, now it won't run properly, what should I do"
Was that too harsh?
To those of you with multiple questions on how to do this, and how to fix that, take it apart... then you will understand how it goes back together. If you have reservations about taking it apart, then entrust the car to your local mechanic and get it done right.
I realize the reason most of you are here are to save a buck on parts and collectively figure out how to maintain and repair your cars on your own, but not everyone is competent mechanically, or you wouldn't be here. Its not a hard job for the mechanically inclined, but if you can't accept advise from professionals like myself or Way, then why ask?
OK, rant over.
I sell the OE filter for just under $50, as does Way. Please support the vendors here, its how we make a living, and the advertising isn't cheap. Of course you can always start a new thread entitled "I just used cheap parts on my MINI, now it won't run properly, what should I do"
Was that too harsh?
Last edited by Grassroots Garage; 02-15-2011 at 02:18 PM.
#48
...I sell the OE filter for just under $50, as does Way. Please support the vendors here, its how we make a living, and the advertising isn't cheap. Of course you can always start a new thread entitled "I just used cheap parts on my MINI, now it won't run properly, what should I do"
Was that too harsh?
Was that too harsh?
Great input, and more believable coming from a MINI expert, but not a MINI dealership tech.
#49
The VAICO filters do not have seals that fit properly. Read my post above about this. Use the OE filters, don't be cheap and try try to save a few bucks on a part you only have to replace every few years or less.
To those of you with multiple questions on how to do this, and how to fix that, take it apart... then you will understand how it goes back together. If you have reservations about taking it apart, then entrust the car to your local mechanic and get it done right.
I realize the reason most of you are here are to save a buck on parts and collectively figure out how to maintain and repair your cars on your own, but not everyone is competent mechanically, or you wouldn't be here. Its not a hard job for the mechanically inclined, but if you can't accept advise from professionals like myself or Way, then why ask?
OK, rant over.
I sell the OE filter for just under $50, as does Way. Please support the vendors here, its how we make a living, and the advertising isn't cheap. Of course you can always start a new thread entitled "I just used cheap parts on my MINI, now it won't run properly, what should I do"
Was that too harsh?
To those of you with multiple questions on how to do this, and how to fix that, take it apart... then you will understand how it goes back together. If you have reservations about taking it apart, then entrust the car to your local mechanic and get it done right.
I realize the reason most of you are here are to save a buck on parts and collectively figure out how to maintain and repair your cars on your own, but not everyone is competent mechanically, or you wouldn't be here. Its not a hard job for the mechanically inclined, but if you can't accept advise from professionals like myself or Way, then why ask?
OK, rant over.
I sell the OE filter for just under $50, as does Way. Please support the vendors here, its how we make a living, and the advertising isn't cheap. Of course you can always start a new thread entitled "I just used cheap parts on my MINI, now it won't run properly, what should I do"
Was that too harsh?
I was going to cancel my order, and buy from you, but couldn't find a fuel filter, and got the vaico. I put it on, and couldn't get the canister back together, then I realized the gasket was too round which is what you said, but I rigged it up.
I had towels all over, and still managed to get fuel all over the inside of the car. Nothing a bunch of chemicals won't fix. The leather sure can handle a lot of stuff. Fuel, simple green, and some purple power stuff I got at the auto store. Still can't get the smell out of the car though. Letting simple green, and purple power soak up overnight to hopefully get rid of the gas smell.
I spent $15.00 on a pack of disposable gloves, but returned them cause I'd rather get my hands dirty then waste $15.00 even knowing it was probably 50 pair of gloves. It takes a lot of soap to clean skin, and get rid of the smell, but worth not wasting money on gloves. I was lighting the wood stove tonight 2 nights after changing the filter, and saw a nice flame going by my arm so I must have had some gas I didn't get off, but I can't smell it.
I did a lot of work on my mini, and saved about $5,000 that a mechanic would've charged to do all the work I did.
#50
Yes - I posted this last month - included step by step w/photos. PM if you have not done it yet, glad to help.
Here's the thread.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=145081
Here's the thread.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=145081
Eurothrasher:
Your write it is awesome. Will it also apply to a 2002 MINI Cooper (non-S)? If so, I'm taking your instructions into the trenches. Please let me know.
Thank you.