My dead MINI
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My dead MINI
After searching and reading about others' problems with dead MINIs, id did not find anything that is similar to my situation. Forgive me if there is, but the search function is not the best.
Let me first state that I have an '06 R53. It has 50,750 mi. No "major issues" to speak of, until now. With the miles, you can see that it is "technically" out of warranty. To add, I just came back from MitM, where the car performed fine.
Now, here's what happened. Friday evening, I was on my way home, or at least attempting to go. When I tried cranking the car, it did for about a second. Then, I tried and tried to start it. No luck.
I notice the DSC light was blinking off, then remaining on after it begins to turn over. It usually does not. So, I think, well maybe it ( ECU ) just needs to be reset.
I disconnect the battery, reset the system and try again. Cranks up - I go home.
The next day, I do not drive anywhere. Sunday, I go to leave to work on my other vehicle and it does it again. However, this time, I hear a clicking from the front of the car.
I ask someone to listen for me and we deduce that it is the R1 relay in the main distribution block. It clicks about 4 or 5 times and then quits. During this time the fuel pump does not pump. It waits until the chattering stops and then pumps.
I tried resetting the system numerous times with no luck.
Now, after trying to figure out what the heck was going on, it does NOT chatter anymore, nor does the fuel pump pump ( make noise ).
Therefore, dead.
I even thought that the battery may have been low. It was checked and is fine.
I have no idea what this could be. Anyone with a similar issue?
Questions welcome, as I have probably forgotten a few obscure details.
Let me first state that I have an '06 R53. It has 50,750 mi. No "major issues" to speak of, until now. With the miles, you can see that it is "technically" out of warranty. To add, I just came back from MitM, where the car performed fine.
Now, here's what happened. Friday evening, I was on my way home, or at least attempting to go. When I tried cranking the car, it did for about a second. Then, I tried and tried to start it. No luck.
I notice the DSC light was blinking off, then remaining on after it begins to turn over. It usually does not. So, I think, well maybe it ( ECU ) just needs to be reset.
I disconnect the battery, reset the system and try again. Cranks up - I go home.
The next day, I do not drive anywhere. Sunday, I go to leave to work on my other vehicle and it does it again. However, this time, I hear a clicking from the front of the car.
I ask someone to listen for me and we deduce that it is the R1 relay in the main distribution block. It clicks about 4 or 5 times and then quits. During this time the fuel pump does not pump. It waits until the chattering stops and then pumps.
I tried resetting the system numerous times with no luck.
Now, after trying to figure out what the heck was going on, it does NOT chatter anymore, nor does the fuel pump pump ( make noise ).
Therefore, dead.
I even thought that the battery may have been low. It was checked and is fine.
I have no idea what this could be. Anyone with a similar issue?
Questions welcome, as I have probably forgotten a few obscure details.
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If you tested it with the charger instead of the battery, then my next suspects would be:
Ground cable(s) - from the battery to the chassis, or any other large cables grounding to the body/motor. Check for corrosion and/or loose connectors.
Starter cable - now, here I profess my MINI ignorance. I do not know where the starter relay is, but that's where I would check first. It might be worth buying a replacement and testing that. Also, check the starter cable and make sure the connection or the cable is not corroded.
Sounds to me like you're not getting enough power to the starter, so anything between it and the battery is suspect.
Ground cable(s) - from the battery to the chassis, or any other large cables grounding to the body/motor. Check for corrosion and/or loose connectors.
Starter cable - now, here I profess my MINI ignorance. I do not know where the starter relay is, but that's where I would check first. It might be worth buying a replacement and testing that. Also, check the starter cable and make sure the connection or the cable is not corroded.
Sounds to me like you're not getting enough power to the starter, so anything between it and the battery is suspect.
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Hi,
I had the same symptons on my Rav4. I knew it couldn't be the battery cuz I had just bought it less than a year ago. I took to it to Sears and the battery checked at 95%, which is really good. It turns out that it was a loose connection (the thing that clamps on to the terminal could not be tightened anymore) to one of the battery terminals and that is why the problem was intermittent. They replaced the clamp and I haven't had a problem since.
Hope this is your problem is a simple as replacing that clamp
Good luck!!
I had the same symptons on my Rav4. I knew it couldn't be the battery cuz I had just bought it less than a year ago. I took to it to Sears and the battery checked at 95%, which is really good. It turns out that it was a loose connection (the thing that clamps on to the terminal could not be tightened anymore) to one of the battery terminals and that is why the problem was intermittent. They replaced the clamp and I haven't had a problem since.
Hope this is your problem is a simple as replacing that clamp
Good luck!!
#7
Exact same issue here. I replaced my battery with a new Duralast battery. The terminals on the battery are just a little smaller than the OEM. Two times in the last year I have gone to the car to start it and electrical would flash and then cut out. I would go and re-tighten the terminal and all is fine. I need to shave a little off the connector so that it will clamp down tighter.
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I knew that it would be something simple.
Do not use silicone grease as a water repellent for the plugs going into the ECU.
It had been in there for about two weeks, with no problems, so I did not think that would have been the issue. However, i'm guessing that it finally got hot enough, numerous times to pool in the bottom area around the pins and was "shorting" the pins. I cleaned everything out and
Plug for Dan @ Grassroots Garage. He took the time to chat with me about this and everything lead back to the ECU. Then the light bulb went on.
Do not use silicone grease as a water repellent for the plugs going into the ECU.
It had been in there for about two weeks, with no problems, so I did not think that would have been the issue. However, i'm guessing that it finally got hot enough, numerous times to pool in the bottom area around the pins and was "shorting" the pins. I cleaned everything out and
Plug for Dan @ Grassroots Garage. He took the time to chat with me about this and everything lead back to the ECU. Then the light bulb went on.
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