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Old 05-31-2009, 08:18 AM
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they should've had some voltage dc on um or the dme wouldn't have the module coming off pin 53 or the resistor off pin 72 . the pin 72 goes to ground so i think the module's looking for the signal voltage . maybe. you checked at the cam sensor with it plugged in yes?
 
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Old 05-31-2009, 05:12 PM
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Ya the cam sensor was plugged in when i checked it.
 
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that's good news and cheaper then a dme . pm frenchie or doc o but i'd think some volts shouldsa been on one of those wires , or both . you could pull the plug and ohm from one wire to the others . go from pin the hot plugs into to each of the others one at a time . not the wires but the sensor unplugged . some value of ohms i would think would be there . but you need a better opinion than mine . the guy that posted about the sensor may have prior experience to draw from .
 
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car just gave two new codes any idea p1234 and p1692
 
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Old 06-01-2009, 07:51 PM
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1692 is Electronic Throttle Control Monitor Level 2/3 Motorized Throttle Control and Fuel Injection Switch Off "A". I don't recognize the other, sorry.
 
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:37 PM
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So i took the car to an independant bmw shop and they also concluded to a bad dme. Many people are telling me i have to have a new dme and others are saying i can get by with a used dme with the same numbers. The dealer is saying that 90% it will not be covered due to my slight mods of intake, exhaust, headers, and 15% pulley. New dme is 1300.00 kinda steep for being in a bad economy.
 
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Old 06-05-2009, 05:14 PM
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I definitely go with a used one. Contact your local salvage yards as some have their inventories in a database. The MINI part # for an '05 MCSw/manual is 12147562640. If you have no luck with the locals these guys will find you a new or used one for a decent price.
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Old 06-05-2009, 05:15 PM
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What year is your car? Federal regulations require manufacturers to warranty every part of emissions system, expressly including the dme, for cars built after a certain year. You can check it out by searching emissions warranty on the EPA's website.

My dme failed (sounds very similar to your experience with the coil fault codes), and the dealer said they weren't going to cover it (I have similar mods on my car, except the header). I raised hell with them and explained that THEY had the obligation to demonstrate that my mods caused the failure in the dme, and that I would be all too happy to notify the EPA. After a bunch of back-and-forth, they capitulated and gave me my car back with a new dme - needless to say, they didn't write the job up or give me any paperwork whatsoever. But, for a $2000 fix, I didn't mind.

Check it out...
 
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thanks
 
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:28 PM
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so i replace the dme and the car still won't start. Do i have to key code the dme. I bought a used 1 with the exact same numbers. Please help
 
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Yes the DME is tied to the VIN and will need to be paired with your MINI. Perhaps you could just unplug the immobilizer module in the drivers side foot panel and it bypass it. Anyone?
 
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Found this quote from a MINI tech regarding the replacement of a DME. "Say you went to get a junkyard or used one. You would also need the new the key module(EWS) and the key ring that goes around the the ignition switch,with those 3 items it will work."
 
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When I called my local MINI dealer and told them I had replaced my DME with a used one, and could they align the immobilizer and the DME, they said, "Sure, no problem. $ 100."
 
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Old 06-25-2009, 03:27 PM
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My local dealership is telling that is impossiblle. I just ordered a new one. My local dealership sucks.
 
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Originally Posted by mini22
so i checked it and the red wire was hot and the volts were good the other 2 wires didn't read anything while i was starting the car? Is the sensor good? Thanks John
did you ever fix your issue?
 
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