Disturbing outcome to noise on '10 JCW...
#26
07-24-2010 | 04:36 PM
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The dipstick in my engine looks like a bit of a cross between those two, resembling the "newer" one more closely. It has no indentations or markings other than the lightly textured ("pebbled" or "crosshatched") area to which you refer. Again, I don't find that kind of indicator particularly intuitive for reading correct oil level (which, like "gmarch," I find a bit difficult to discern against the color of the plastic "bob"), but maybe it's just me...?
Agreed that it works to indicate oil level. Just wish it worked better for me...
Agreed that it works to indicate oil level. Just wish it worked better for me...
#28
07-25-2010 | 08:47 AM
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Yeah, sorry , I couldn't find a pic of the newest plastic, square sectioned cross hatched one....
Still, a lot of people complain about not understanding the readings or being able to even see them. I wonder if they could have made it out of a lighter colored plastic, maybe the oil would show up on it better and make it easier to read for those having trouble?
Still, a lot of people complain about not understanding the readings or being able to even see them. I wonder if they could have made it out of a lighter colored plastic, maybe the oil would show up on it better and make it easier to read for those having trouble?
#29
07-25-2010 | 09:04 AM
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From: Lorena & San Antonio, TX
By the way: my Clubman is red, isn't it...?
#30
07-25-2010 | 09:18 AM
At which point your engine is potentially ruined too... This leads me to rhetorically ask: other than that they can charge extra money for it, why doesn't MINI provide a basic gauge package (oil pressure, coolant temperature, battery voltage) on their vehicles? They promote these vehicles as members of the sports/performance class, and even my 1997 GMC Jimmy came standard with a gauge package...
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...gauges-17.html
Marshall's gauges installed: H2O temp, Oil Pressure, Boost/Vac, Volts if you look in my garage/gallery I have more pictures during the install and to avoid slamming my pocketbook I was able to start with 2 then added one and finally did the last one. SRTech aka Steve at Custom Mini Shop is always willing to answer questions see my signature for information.
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#31
07-25-2010 | 10:31 AM
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Was that so hard, MINI...?
#32
07-25-2010 | 11:26 AM
Thats what makes our cars so great. Mini produced them allowing for enough modification room to make them into the performance products that we want. Contact SRTech as several options in gages are available from electric to stepper motors allowing for evaluation of performance without waiting for the "idiot" light to come on. These gauges don't eliminate the lights as they are hooked up while still allowing the computer to do what it needs to do.
#33
07-25-2010 | 12:15 PM
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Actually, I find it inexcusably cheap not to have had a water temp and voltmeter to start with. Maybe if they had not tried to be so cutesy with the useless center speedo they could have given us usable gauges to start with.
(yes, gauges my next project). So, what do they give for a gauge on the drop-top? A top down timer! Gasp.
(yes, gauges my next project). So, what do they give for a gauge on the drop-top? A top down timer! Gasp.
#34
07-26-2010 | 10:59 AM
Actually, I find it inexcusably cheap not to have had a water temp and voltmeter to start with. Maybe if they had not tried to be so cutesy with the useless center speedo they could have given us usable gauges to start with.
(yes, gauges my next project). So, what do they give for a gauge on the drop-top? A top down timer! Gasp.
(yes, gauges my next project). So, what do they give for a gauge on the drop-top? A top down timer! Gasp.
#35
08-09-2010 | 03:12 PM
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From: Mt. Juliet
Recently, I started hearing a noise on my '10 JCW. If I had to put it in words, it sounds like a heat shield vibrating against the exhaust. Sort of a buzzing vibration noise. It happened when the car was cold, and at around 2700-4000 RPM. It went away after the car warmed up. I can't confirm this 100% as it is hard to reproduce, but I think it happened more if I cornered to the right. Every once in a while, when the car was warm, a hard turn to the right would briefly cause the noise.
OK, so I bring it to the dealer. They drive it. No noise. I leave the car so they can drive it when it is cold. The call and tell me they heard the noise, and thought it was near the timing chain area (at least that's what I think they said - left a voice mail on my cell and it was hard to hear).
I was away on business, but when I came back, I called and they said that there was no problem - but that my oil was low and that's what was causing the noise. I picked up the car last night, and there was no noise. There was no noise this morning either.
So, my concerns are:
1) Why was the oil low? Dealer explanation: "Mini says that the cars can loose x amount of oil per y amount of time/distance blah blah".
2) Why was there no oil light on? Dealer explanation: "It was low, but just above the trigger point for the light to come on"
3) Why was there a noise? One would suspect that if the oil is low, and there is a noise because of that, it would mean something is not getting lubricated and being damaged. Dealer explanation: None.
4) What was the noise, and what damage could have been done?
Basically, it seems that the tolerances for oil level are tighter than the sensor settings - something I would not have expected on a modern car.
I'd love to hear opinions on this...
Thanks,
/greg
OK, so I bring it to the dealer. They drive it. No noise. I leave the car so they can drive it when it is cold. The call and tell me they heard the noise, and thought it was near the timing chain area (at least that's what I think they said - left a voice mail on my cell and it was hard to hear).
I was away on business, but when I came back, I called and they said that there was no problem - but that my oil was low and that's what was causing the noise. I picked up the car last night, and there was no noise. There was no noise this morning either.
So, my concerns are:
1) Why was the oil low? Dealer explanation: "Mini says that the cars can loose x amount of oil per y amount of time/distance blah blah".
2) Why was there no oil light on? Dealer explanation: "It was low, but just above the trigger point for the light to come on"
3) Why was there a noise? One would suspect that if the oil is low, and there is a noise because of that, it would mean something is not getting lubricated and being damaged. Dealer explanation: None.
4) What was the noise, and what damage could have been done?
Basically, it seems that the tolerances for oil level are tighter than the sensor settings - something I would not have expected on a modern car.
I'd love to hear opinions on this...
Thanks,
/greg
#36
08-09-2010 | 04:00 PM
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