Must Read About time Power steering pump failure !!!
#252
I ended up cutting a slot for the bolt. The pump wouldn't come out, now way no how. My problem was that I couldn't reach to cut the wireties on the wiring and for some reason they wouldn't release when pushing the little one way buttons back up. That and it is freakin' impossible to release the low pressure hose. I think I am going to dremel off the clamp before I cut myself with the flathead screwdriver one more time.
Once I cut the slot, the pump came right out and gave me access to snip the wire ties. Now I still need to release the low pressure hose. I still must be missing something about that, it just doesn't make sense. The dremel is sounding better each minute I think about it - and just replace it with a regular screw type hose clamp when I put it back together.
Once I cut the slot, the pump came right out and gave me access to snip the wire ties. Now I still need to release the low pressure hose. I still must be missing something about that, it just doesn't make sense. The dremel is sounding better each minute I think about it - and just replace it with a regular screw type hose clamp when I put it back together.
#253
Really MINI -- you can't follow suit?
This is not cool
http://news.yahoo.com/toyota-recalls...--finance.html
This is not cool
http://news.yahoo.com/toyota-recalls...--finance.html
#254
It would be a miracle if Mini/BMW ever decided to issue a recall for the PS units.
Recall expense for Toyota is just a drop in the bucket-they are more concerned about customer safety after all the negative publicity from the sticky gas pedal problem.
155,000 Toyota's sold in in the US Vs. 5,800 Mini's for October
Recall expense for Toyota is just a drop in the bucket-they are more concerned about customer safety after all the negative publicity from the sticky gas pedal problem.
155,000 Toyota's sold in in the US Vs. 5,800 Mini's for October
#255
#256
Pump $600
Fan $150
Fluid $20
Hoses??
Thanks
#257
NEW OEM pump. $$595.00...(a rebuilt exchange unit can be had for $200, but does not always work as the electronics are just cleaned, and not replaced).
NEW OEM FAN..$185.00
the correct PS fluid!! $25.00
leaky hose? $57 and $65.00
PS tank...$12.00.
Still trying to get to $1400...and that is everything but the rack....think you need a different shop!!
Most of this stuff NEVER goes bad...and a pump can be changed in a driveway on a set of jack stands in a couple hours....sounds like your beef is with the shop that overcharged you!!
And all those prices are one stop from Waymotorworks.com.
Sounds like you had other stuff done to your car.....sucks it broke, but it is a 2004..things age....but if YOU decide to go to an OVERPRICED shop, and then complain about pricing......
The rack CAN leak...but i it is NOT part of the recall...and using the wrong fluid can damage the seals, causing a leak!! So ALWAYS USE the correct PETROSIN PS fluid.....MINI, VW, and most NAPA stores sell it in my area.
NEW OEM FAN..$185.00
the correct PS fluid!! $25.00
leaky hose? $57 and $65.00
PS tank...$12.00.
Still trying to get to $1400...and that is everything but the rack....think you need a different shop!!
Most of this stuff NEVER goes bad...and a pump can be changed in a driveway on a set of jack stands in a couple hours....sounds like your beef is with the shop that overcharged you!!
And all those prices are one stop from Waymotorworks.com.
Sounds like you had other stuff done to your car.....sucks it broke, but it is a 2004..things age....but if YOU decide to go to an OVERPRICED shop, and then complain about pricing......
The rack CAN leak...but i it is NOT part of the recall...and using the wrong fluid can damage the seals, causing a leak!! So ALWAYS USE the correct PETROSIN PS fluid.....MINI, VW, and most NAPA stores sell it in my area.
Last edited by ZippyNH; 11-17-2012 at 10:50 AM.
#258
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Sounds like you had other stuff done to your car.....sucks it broke, but it is a 2004..things age....but if YOU decide to go to an OVERPRICED shop, and then complain about pricing......
The rack CAN leak...but i it is NOT part of the recall...and using the wrong fluid can damage the seals, causing a leak!! So ALWAYS USE the correct PETROSIN PS fluid.....MINI, VW, and most NAPA stores sell it in my area.[/QUOTE]
Point I was getting at Zippy..$1400 for parts alone represents a solid markup on even what the dealer charges..so someone got worked over.
Sounds like you had other stuff done to your car.....sucks it broke, but it is a 2004..things age....but if YOU decide to go to an OVERPRICED shop, and then complain about pricing......
The rack CAN leak...but i it is NOT part of the recall...and using the wrong fluid can damage the seals, causing a leak!! So ALWAYS USE the correct PETROSIN PS fluid.....MINI, VW, and most NAPA stores sell it in my area.[/QUOTE]
Point I was getting at Zippy..$1400 for parts alone represents a solid markup on even what the dealer charges..so someone got worked over.
#259
OP made this post and 3 other identical posts...no answers.
I would LOVE to know the name of the shop that got the $$ for a PS pump change.....sounds like they should go to jail...highway robbery!!
#261
#262
I have the same power steering failure with my 2004 MINI Cooper S.
Mileage: 124K. I took it to MINI of Santa Clara in California to get it fix. I told them, it's the pump. Well, after they diagnosed themselves, they say it's the PS pump. They quoted me around $1100. I told them to replace the pump.
Because I found out about the common problem with the PS other owners have, when I picked up my car, I spoke to the service manager, Randy. He checked with MINI of USA to have they pay partial or the whole bill. Two days later.
They paid the whole bill!!!!!!
Sooooo happy.
Mileage: 124K. I took it to MINI of Santa Clara in California to get it fix. I told them, it's the pump. Well, after they diagnosed themselves, they say it's the PS pump. They quoted me around $1100. I told them to replace the pump.
Because I found out about the common problem with the PS other owners have, when I picked up my car, I spoke to the service manager, Randy. He checked with MINI of USA to have they pay partial or the whole bill. Two days later.
They paid the whole bill!!!!!!
Sooooo happy.
#263
Well, I am here to join the club. 03 MCS with 83k miles. Came home and turned off the car tonight and heard something running. Quickly pulled out the ramps to check the PS pump as I have been around here long enough to have heard the reports. Sure enough, removed the fan to make sure that was not it making the noise. PSP running hard with car off. Removed negative terminal and read this thread.....
To do list:
File report at nhtsa
call dealers in morning
price part at waymotorworks
To do list:
File report at nhtsa
call dealers in morning
price part at waymotorworks
#264
Well, I am here to join the club. 03 MCS with 83k miles. Came home and turned off the car tonight and heard something running. Quickly pulled out the ramps to check the PS pump as I have been around here long enough to have heard the reports. Sure enough, removed the fan to make sure that was not it making the noise. PSP running hard with car off. Removed negative terminal and read this thread.....
To do list:
File report at nhtsa
call dealers in morning
price part at waymotorworks
To do list:
File report at nhtsa
call dealers in morning
price part at waymotorworks
#265
When should the PS fan comes on for a 12/02 build R50
My 2003 R50 was built on 12/02, I have the older style radiator fan with 2 connectors.
I was told my PS fan is out, but before getting a new fan, I would like to better understand how it operates, and when it operates.
After reading 40+ pages of posting on the radiator fan and PS fan, there seems to be three schools of thought of there for my car:
* PS Fan is controlled by the DME, it will come on when the DME deem it is necessary.
* PS Fan comes on whenever radiator fan is on (low or high).
* For 2002 and 2003 with an earlier than 03/03 build date, the PS fan only comes on when high speed fan is on.
Can someone confirm which version is the truth? Again, this is specific to a pre March build of the 2003 R50.
Thanks in advance
I was told my PS fan is out, but before getting a new fan, I would like to better understand how it operates, and when it operates.
After reading 40+ pages of posting on the radiator fan and PS fan, there seems to be three schools of thought of there for my car:
* PS Fan is controlled by the DME, it will come on when the DME deem it is necessary.
* PS Fan comes on whenever radiator fan is on (low or high).
* For 2002 and 2003 with an earlier than 03/03 build date, the PS fan only comes on when high speed fan is on.
Can someone confirm which version is the truth? Again, this is specific to a pre March build of the 2003 R50.
Thanks in advance
#266
This I can confirm:
"For 2002 and 2003 with an earlier than 03/03 build date, the PS fan only comes on when high speed fan is on."
Dealer can rewire for it to come on together w/ the low speed rad fan like on post 03/03 models.
Mine is an 02, wired a relayed manual switch for it to turn on & off. This way, I need no computer to ask it to come on. :-)
"For 2002 and 2003 with an earlier than 03/03 build date, the PS fan only comes on when high speed fan is on."
Dealer can rewire for it to come on together w/ the low speed rad fan like on post 03/03 models.
Mine is an 02, wired a relayed manual switch for it to turn on & off. This way, I need no computer to ask it to come on. :-)
#267
#268
This is awesome! http://www.billswebspace.com/MiniR53PSPFanDuctDIY.htm
Thanks for the help. I also bought the fan from A1electric.com and got it in a day $60
Thanks for the help. I also bought the fan from A1electric.com and got it in a day $60
#269
My P/S pump was intermittently going off on start up and if I shut it down and restarted it it was fine. Then one day it was no go, I have been driving it for about 4 months without the pump working, the fan had blown its fuse I found and let the pump overheat. I swapped the fan fuse and heard it kick on but the pump never did again, its a bear in tight spots but down the road its fine as wine. Might swap it and the fan out this spring but it doesnt seem necessary.
#270
#271
My first PS pump failed in May of 2012. I didn't have an issue with the steering but my battery kept dying. I had the PS pump replaced under warranty. Now the same thing is happening; the battery keeps dying. I found the receipt from the repair and a refurbished pump was installed and no mention of the fan being replaced. I'll be calling the shop tomorrow morning to schedule a fix (the warranty is still in date). I'm driving an '06 S with 49K miles on it.
#272
I,ve had my 02' MCS for bout 6 months and absolutely love it. Yesterday pulling out of the driveway the power steering went out. My first guess is it's the pump of corse, HOWEVER I put it on ramps today trying to figure why it blew fluid towards the right front wheel and onto the rim... could it just be the high pressure line and not the pump? Can't find the exact leak but fluid and ps went really quickly. Just had powerflex bushings put on control arms, PS rack and on front sway.... Any help would be much appreciated!!
Alan
Alan
#273
Did you drop the subframe the right way when installing the bushings or did you just hang it down putting pressure on the PShoses etc? If you lost all your fluid I would go with hoses...when the pump itself goes your ps reservoir is usually still full.
Fill it only with the Pentonsin CHF 11s however it it's the line you are going to lose $22 all over the floor pretty fast. Neither of those lines could really blow off btw. High pressure line is bolted in. Low pressure line has a single use clamp and is a very tight fit anyhow.
Fill it only with the Pentonsin CHF 11s however it it's the line you are going to lose $22 all over the floor pretty fast. Neither of those lines could really blow off btw. High pressure line is bolted in. Low pressure line has a single use clamp and is a very tight fit anyhow.
#274
I am on my 3rd pump, I just replaced it yesterday, although its not hard to do, I am thinking on wiring the fan to the low speed fan or even just to accessory just so I get maximum use of it, idk when it ACTUALLY goes on, but Id like to see it be on almost all the time when the car is running I think. I dont want that pump going again
#275
P/S went out while I was driving through town - 30 mph. Steering felt heavy. Pulled into Rib City and had lunch - nothing like a great lunch of ribs to chew on when you're thinking about $1000+ repairs. Got back in car, turned key - P/S back on! Then today, went out at 65 mph on a curve. Definitely got my attention. Since I've got an '02 with 78K on it, I guess I have to be ready for a few repairs. Love the car - replaced the P/S fan last summer. It is definitely giving me pause as I contemplate buying another MINI - especially living so far (275 miles) away from a dealership.
I may have to put my Bentley's book to use!
I may have to put my Bentley's book to use!