The Yo-Yo Chronicles
#401
04-15-2004, 09:09 AM
woah, HiredGuns - don't panic on us now! MINI has been listening. I have no reason not to trust my contact at MINIUSA that a fix will be here shortly. There's a good chance your MCS won't even have the Yo-Yo. If you're concerned (and it looks like you are), you CAN drive your MCS before signing the paperwork, to ensure yours is spot-on.
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04-15-2004, 10:27 AM
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The only problem with waiting the car arrives and test driving is that the yoyo doesnt always happen upon delivery (it didnt on mine at least). And if you take delivery, Mini will simply feed you the "its a characteristic of the car" line and claim the "fix" will be released "next month."
Tokio
How did those who approved your Lemon Law claim verify the existence of the yo yo (did you send the car to a third party)?
Jim
>>woah, HiredGuns - don't panic on us now! MINI has been listening. I have no reason not to trust my contact at MINIUSA that a fix will be here shortly. There's a good chance your MCS won't even have the Yo-Yo. If you're concerned (and it looks like you are), you CAN drive your MCS before signing the paperwork, to ensure yours is spot-on.
The only problem with waiting the car arrives and test driving is that the yoyo doesnt always happen upon delivery (it didnt on mine at least). And if you take delivery, Mini will simply feed you the "its a characteristic of the car" line and claim the "fix" will be released "next month."
Tokio
How did those who approved your Lemon Law claim verify the existence of the yo yo (did you send the car to a third party)?
Jim
>>woah, HiredGuns - don't panic on us now! MINI has been listening. I have no reason not to trust my contact at MINIUSA that a fix will be here shortly. There's a good chance your MCS won't even have the Yo-Yo. If you're concerned (and it looks like you are), you CAN drive your MCS before signing the paperwork, to ensure yours is spot-on.
#403
04-15-2004, 10:36 AM
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04-15-2004, 11:03 AM
From what I understand from reading through these pages, the actual cause of the yo-yo is software, not controlling the bypass valve properly. However, by fitting a stronger spring into the valve body, you can effectively "fix" the problem via hardware. The software issue still remains but the hardware "fix" overrides it.
I pick up my MCS next week but hopefully it won't have a noticable yo-yo. The demo we drove had it slightly, but I didn't really notice it while my wife did.
My fix? Press the accelerator harder.
I pick up my MCS next week but hopefully it won't have a noticable yo-yo. The demo we drove had it slightly, but I didn't really notice it while my wife did.
My fix? Press the accelerator harder.
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04-15-2004, 11:12 AM
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Ryephile, Woah is right. All I been doing since I made the decision to buy a mcs is dream, & labor over the color like I’ve never labored before on a car color. I sold my 911 because I just fell head over heals in love with this car. Mini has had what seems to be over a year to remedy this and so far things continue to continue. Not good in my book. Let me put it this way I want this car! But the last thing I need in today’s automotive world is a car with problems that the factory can’t fix or, just won’t? Time for me to make some serious decisions. I will contact my dealer, also as many wrench heads I can think of to try and keep with my choice.
#406
04-15-2004, 12:07 PM
>>Ryephile, Woah is right. All I been doing since I made the decision to buy a mcs is dream, & labor over the color like I’ve never labored before on a car color. I sold my 911 because I just fell head over heals in love with this car. Mini has had what seems to be over a year to remedy this and so far things continue to continue. Not good in my book. Let me put it this way I want this car! But the last thing I need in today’s automotive world is a car with problems that the factory can’t fix or, just won’t? Time for me to make some serious decisions. I will contact my dealer, also as many wrench heads I can think of to try and keep with my choice.
You must not want this car as bad as you say you do. The Yo-yo is an annoyance to most. I've had it for a year now and I'd say, I would still buy the car. The "Stumble" for me was more than any annoyance and I would say I wouldn't have bought the car because of that. It is fixed now and I believe if they release a fix for the Yo-yo that it will work. Your right at the end of the tunnel at your delivery date so I certainly wouldn't worry about it.
You must not want this car as bad as you say you do. The Yo-yo is an annoyance to most. I've had it for a year now and I'd say, I would still buy the car. The "Stumble" for me was more than any annoyance and I would say I wouldn't have bought the car because of that. It is fixed now and I believe if they release a fix for the Yo-yo that it will work. Your right at the end of the tunnel at your delivery date so I certainly wouldn't worry about it.
#407
04-15-2004, 12:38 PM
HiredGuns,
I would also add that after reading over all these pages, my impression is that the severe yo-yo is actually pretty rare. Many report a mild yo-yo, which can be annoying, but almost everyone says that it goes away after the car warms up. I have had my MCS for a little over a week, and driven it about 700 miles. I have noticed the yo-yo exactly twice, and each time it was mild and happened only for a fraction of a second.
I would also add that Ryan started working on this in late December. That was pretty close to the time the stumble fix came out. The yo-yo may have been a problem before that, but people weren't nearly as worried about it as they were about the stumble. Assuming that the yo-yo became a priority to someone at MINI around December, and assuming that a fix will be here by 1 May, that's a mere 5 months (with holidays thrown in) to troubleshoot, do development and testing, and go through all the approval red tape. It takes a good deal of time to engineer and test good code--indeed, time MINI should have put in a while back, but perhaps they are learning their lessons. In my opinion, they have moved lightening fast for something that is just "annoying" in Ryan's words--and he has a very severe case. No doubt, MINI could have and should have handled the whole thing better. But this car is so great--I think you might regret changing your mind over something small that might be fixed by the time your car is delivered.
I hope I'm not offending anyone, just trying to provide some perspective. It's worth it to read all 17 pages of the yo-yo chronicles in one day, noting the dates of all the posts. I know, I know, I should have better things to do. :smile:
I would also add that after reading over all these pages, my impression is that the severe yo-yo is actually pretty rare. Many report a mild yo-yo, which can be annoying, but almost everyone says that it goes away after the car warms up. I have had my MCS for a little over a week, and driven it about 700 miles. I have noticed the yo-yo exactly twice, and each time it was mild and happened only for a fraction of a second.
I would also add that Ryan started working on this in late December. That was pretty close to the time the stumble fix came out. The yo-yo may have been a problem before that, but people weren't nearly as worried about it as they were about the stumble. Assuming that the yo-yo became a priority to someone at MINI around December, and assuming that a fix will be here by 1 May, that's a mere 5 months (with holidays thrown in) to troubleshoot, do development and testing, and go through all the approval red tape. It takes a good deal of time to engineer and test good code--indeed, time MINI should have put in a while back, but perhaps they are learning their lessons. In my opinion, they have moved lightening fast for something that is just "annoying" in Ryan's words--and he has a very severe case. No doubt, MINI could have and should have handled the whole thing better. But this car is so great--I think you might regret changing your mind over something small that might be fixed by the time your car is delivered.
I hope I'm not offending anyone, just trying to provide some perspective. It's worth it to read all 17 pages of the yo-yo chronicles in one day, noting the dates of all the posts. I know, I know, I should have better things to do. :smile:
#408
04-15-2004, 01:24 PM
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04-15-2004, 02:48 PM
I took delivery of my '04 MCS last October. I was praying it didn't have the "stumble"...knowing it might have the Yo-Yo. I really wanted to drive the MCS and would wait for the updates to cure all ills!
As it turned out, my car was updated with the latest software version (v.36) at the VPC in NJ right after it came off the boat. This happened about a month before v.36 made it to the dealers. No stumble!
It turned out I did have the yo-yo and it has been a minor annoyance (typical of the '04s vs. some particulary strong "bucking" '03s). However, I've performed Ryephix #1 with the only negative result being a very slight loss of MPG. This is tiding me over until v.38 is available.
The best part is that the Ryephix #1 only cost me 10 minutes of time and one zip-tie. But I assure you I will be one of the first in line at my dealer for the v.38 upgrade!
HiredGuns --
Don't be so quick on the draw! Version 38 may be making its way to your local VPC as we speak. You may get it before all of us do!!! Look on the briight side--at least the ECU is not manufactured/programmed by Lucas!
My two pence,
Theo
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As it turned out, my car was updated with the latest software version (v.36) at the VPC in NJ right after it came off the boat. This happened about a month before v.36 made it to the dealers. No stumble!
It turned out I did have the yo-yo and it has been a minor annoyance (typical of the '04s vs. some particulary strong "bucking" '03s). However, I've performed Ryephix #1 with the only negative result being a very slight loss of MPG. This is tiding me over until v.38 is available.
The best part is that the Ryephix #1 only cost me 10 minutes of time and one zip-tie. But I assure you I will be one of the first in line at my dealer for the v.38 upgrade!
HiredGuns --
Don't be so quick on the draw! Version 38 may be making its way to your local VPC as we speak. You may get it before all of us do!!! Look on the briight side--at least the ECU is not manufactured/programmed by Lucas!
My two pence,
Theo
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>>Tokio
>>
>>How did those who approved your Lemon Law claim verify the existence of the yo yo (did you send the car to a third party)?
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>>Jim
The Lemon Law board members took my car for a drive after I drove them. They were all able to reproduce the effect.
The tech rep for BMW (Jose "Weazle" Garcia from Atlanta) who had previously stated on several service reports that the yoyo is a "characteristic" of the Cooper S says this to me on the way out of the hearing - "Well they don't all do it"
BMW don't deserve any of you as customers. The way they have delt with this problem, wheather they can fix it or not. They couldn't care less about you as customers once they have your money.
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>>Tokio
>>
>>How did those who approved your Lemon Law claim verify the existence of the yo yo (did you send the car to a third party)?
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>>Jim
The Lemon Law board members took my car for a drive after I drove them. They were all able to reproduce the effect.
The tech rep for BMW (Jose "Weazle" Garcia from Atlanta) who had previously stated on several service reports that the yoyo is a "characteristic" of the Cooper S says this to me on the way out of the hearing - "Well they don't all do it"
BMW don't deserve any of you as customers. The way they have delt with this problem, wheather they can fix it or not. They couldn't care less about you as customers once they have your money.
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#411
04-15-2004, 06:09 PM
>>BMW don't deserve any of you as customers. The way they have delt with this problem, wheather they can fix it or not. They couldn't care less about you as customers once they have your money.
Tokio,
I think you are probably right about that, and I am not questioning your decision in any way. Clearly many of the MINI dealers do not treat their customers well. But in my experience, this is true of every other car company as well. ALL of them produce products that may have some flaws. ALL of them rely on the dealers to interface with their customers. ALL of them have had problems that have made their customers feel the way you do. You could go by what Consumer Reports and what JD Power say about quality and treatment of customers. But even then you could be unlucky and get a bad car, or a bad dealer. No car or car company is immune. The Lemon law is a truly beautiful thing. I say let your delivered automobile prove its "lemon-ness" to you before you reject it on the testimony of others' anecdotal experience. This protection allows you to buy a car based on what you think is going to fit your needs the best and not be immensely worried that you can never get your money back if it ends up biting you.
That said, I applaud your tenacity in going through the lemon law, I feel bad for you that MINI let you down, and I hope that your replacement, be it MINI or other, is good to you.
No car company "deserves" any of its customers. It's a simple quid pro quo. To expect anything else is to set yourself up for disappointment.
Jason
Tokio,
I think you are probably right about that, and I am not questioning your decision in any way. Clearly many of the MINI dealers do not treat their customers well. But in my experience, this is true of every other car company as well. ALL of them produce products that may have some flaws. ALL of them rely on the dealers to interface with their customers. ALL of them have had problems that have made their customers feel the way you do. You could go by what Consumer Reports and what JD Power say about quality and treatment of customers. But even then you could be unlucky and get a bad car, or a bad dealer. No car or car company is immune. The Lemon law is a truly beautiful thing. I say let your delivered automobile prove its "lemon-ness" to you before you reject it on the testimony of others' anecdotal experience. This protection allows you to buy a car based on what you think is going to fit your needs the best and not be immensely worried that you can never get your money back if it ends up biting you.
That said, I applaud your tenacity in going through the lemon law, I feel bad for you that MINI let you down, and I hope that your replacement, be it MINI or other, is good to you.
No car company "deserves" any of its customers. It's a simple quid pro quo. To expect anything else is to set yourself up for disappointment.
Jason
#412
04-15-2004, 08:08 PM
I havent heard of many car companies that allow their dealers to "ban" their customers from bringing their car into service at the dealership (as at least two people in this thread have had happened to them). Seems to be a BMW thing.
Jim
>>>>BMW don't deserve any of you as customers. The way they have delt with this problem, wheather they can fix it or not. They couldn't care less about you as customers once they have your money.
>>
>>Tokio,
>>I think you are probably right about that, and I am not questioning your decision in any way. Clearly many of the MINI dealers do not treat their customers well. But in my experience, this is true of every other car company as well. ALL of them produce products that may have some flaws. ALL of them rely on the dealers to interface with their customers. ALL of them have had problems that have made their customers feel the way you do. You could go by what Consumer Reports and what JD Power say about quality and treatment of customers. But even then you could be unlucky and get a bad car, or a bad dealer. No car or car company is immune. The Lemon law is a truly beautiful thing. I say let your delivered automobile prove its "lemon-ness" to you before you reject it on the testimony of others' anecdotal experience. This protection allows you to buy a car based on what you think is going to fit your needs the best and not be immensely worried that you can never get your money back if it ends up biting you.
>>
>>That said, I applaud your tenacity in going through the lemon law, I feel bad for you that MINI let you down, and I hope that your replacement, be it MINI or other, is good to you.
>>
>>No car company "deserves" any of its customers. It's a simple quid pro quo. To expect anything else is to set yourself up for disappointment.
>>
>>Jason
Jim
>>>>BMW don't deserve any of you as customers. The way they have delt with this problem, wheather they can fix it or not. They couldn't care less about you as customers once they have your money.
>>
>>Tokio,
>>I think you are probably right about that, and I am not questioning your decision in any way. Clearly many of the MINI dealers do not treat their customers well. But in my experience, this is true of every other car company as well. ALL of them produce products that may have some flaws. ALL of them rely on the dealers to interface with their customers. ALL of them have had problems that have made their customers feel the way you do. You could go by what Consumer Reports and what JD Power say about quality and treatment of customers. But even then you could be unlucky and get a bad car, or a bad dealer. No car or car company is immune. The Lemon law is a truly beautiful thing. I say let your delivered automobile prove its "lemon-ness" to you before you reject it on the testimony of others' anecdotal experience. This protection allows you to buy a car based on what you think is going to fit your needs the best and not be immensely worried that you can never get your money back if it ends up biting you.
>>
>>That said, I applaud your tenacity in going through the lemon law, I feel bad for you that MINI let you down, and I hope that your replacement, be it MINI or other, is good to you.
>>
>>No car company "deserves" any of its customers. It's a simple quid pro quo. To expect anything else is to set yourself up for disappointment.
>>
>>Jason
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04-15-2004, 08:19 PM
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>>Tokio,
>> Clearly many of the MINI dealers do not treat their customers well. But in my experience, this is true of every other car company as well. ALL of them produce products that may have some flaws. ALL of them rely on the dealers to interface with their customers. ALL of them have had problems that have made their customers feel the way you do. You could go by what Consumer Reports and what JD Power say about quality and treatment of customers. But even then you could be unlucky and get a bad car, or a bad dealer. No car or car company is immune. The Lemon law is a truly beautiful thing. I say let your delivered automobile prove its "lemon-ness" to you before you reject it on the testimony of others' anecdotal experience.
>>
>>Jason
Jason,
Once you go into Lemon phase (allowing the manufacturer to perform final fixes on the car) you are dealing directly with Mini HQ/BMW. I was dealing with them long before this stage also, as the dealership was obviously not equipped to deal with the software problems. In fact I started dealing with Mini NJ within a few weeks of owning the car. That was more than a year ago now. I live in FL.
Having been through this experience I would not only say that my MCS is a Lemon, but the BMW corporation is also a LEMON.
BMW knew they had serious problems with this yoyo issue before we purchased our cars. If you got a good one, that's fine but many of us didn't. BMW have blamed it on modifications we have done to our cars, bad gas, bad driving and any other straw they can clutch on to, and then turned their back on us by passing it off as a "characteristic".
Sure lemon cars exist in any make, but I seriously doubt that Infiniti or Lexus would put a customer through what I've been through with BMW, knowing that they sold me a bad car.
The cars may be fixed one day, but it's the BMW corporation that is the bigger Lemon here, and fixing that will be a lot more difficult.
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>> Clearly many of the MINI dealers do not treat their customers well. But in my experience, this is true of every other car company as well. ALL of them produce products that may have some flaws. ALL of them rely on the dealers to interface with their customers. ALL of them have had problems that have made their customers feel the way you do. You could go by what Consumer Reports and what JD Power say about quality and treatment of customers. But even then you could be unlucky and get a bad car, or a bad dealer. No car or car company is immune. The Lemon law is a truly beautiful thing. I say let your delivered automobile prove its "lemon-ness" to you before you reject it on the testimony of others' anecdotal experience.
>>
>>Jason
Jason,
Once you go into Lemon phase (allowing the manufacturer to perform final fixes on the car) you are dealing directly with Mini HQ/BMW. I was dealing with them long before this stage also, as the dealership was obviously not equipped to deal with the software problems. In fact I started dealing with Mini NJ within a few weeks of owning the car. That was more than a year ago now. I live in FL.
Having been through this experience I would not only say that my MCS is a Lemon, but the BMW corporation is also a LEMON.
BMW knew they had serious problems with this yoyo issue before we purchased our cars. If you got a good one, that's fine but many of us didn't. BMW have blamed it on modifications we have done to our cars, bad gas, bad driving and any other straw they can clutch on to, and then turned their back on us by passing it off as a "characteristic".
Sure lemon cars exist in any make, but I seriously doubt that Infiniti or Lexus would put a customer through what I've been through with BMW, knowing that they sold me a bad car.
The cars may be fixed one day, but it's the BMW corporation that is the bigger Lemon here, and fixing that will be a lot more difficult.
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Interesting,
I got rid of my 03 MCS last June because of the yoyo syndrome. And it still continues :evil: I figured BMW wouldn't fix it as long as the cars sold and people put up with it. I'm happier than ever with my decision to sell. I don't miss the car at all, especially the yoyo
Bluesmaster
I got rid of my 03 MCS last June because of the yoyo syndrome. And it still continues :evil: I figured BMW wouldn't fix it as long as the cars sold and people put up with it. I'm happier than ever with my decision to sell. I don't miss the car at all, especially the yoyo
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Updated Yo-Yo list is 79 cars.
I have incomplete information on the following. PM me with the info and I will update.
no vin 09/03 Spanky_03
no vin 09/03 mbur1024
no vin 10/03 Big&Mini
no vin 11/03 savage65
no vin 01/04 AmRov
no vin 01/04 atn57
no vin ??/?? Adrian
no vin ??/?? dgibbphoto
TD????? 07/03 GJR
TD67984 ??/03 jgalvin
TD73370 ??/03 reshultz
TD74156 ??/03 fishey72
TD75xxx 10/03 jblow
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TD50353 03/02 travelkids
TD51104 05/02 911RSAmerica
TD51401 05/02 2Cool
TD52855 06/02 BeerBrewer
TD53564 06/02 cpeters
TD54313 06/02 capsfan13
TD56015 07/02 sambusik
TD57170 08/02 weeber
TD58121 10/02 ScottG
TD58221 09/02 Mike87
TD58445 09/02 RECOOP
TD58934 09/02 baggins
TD60679 10/02 DaveNagy
TD61199 11/02 cooper44
TD62476 11/02 mudshark
TD64498 12/02 Minimoto
TD67615 03/03 tme
TD67659 03/03 Tokio LEMON 4/14/2004
TD67984 ??/03 jgalvin
TD68072 04/03 SB
TD68136 04/03 coopstas
TD68280 04/03 jblack
TD68554 04/03 jstines
TD68953 04/03 Darxar
TD69237 05/03 mmanasas
TD69433 05/03 allen_shelton
TD69664 05/03 Tugboat
TD69722 05/03 orthomini
TD70585 06/03 Wastik
TD70666 06/03 agokart
TD71389 06/03 manoo
TD71389 06/03 manoo
TD????? 07/03 GJR
TD72119 07/03 indygomini
TD72531 07/03 brit-in-usa
TD73370 ??/03 reshultz
TD73852 09/03 minionrails Ontario
TD74156 ??/03 fishey72
TD74337 09/03 KatanaPilot
TD74370 09/03 Ken G
TD74679 09/03 Greg B
TD74723 09/03 apexer
TD75054 09/03 mczinn
TD75106 09/03 fuzzyface
TD75257 09/03 dimi_mcs
TD75287 09/03 Michael30340
TD75554 09/03 MidMichMini
TD75586 09/03 Koopah
TD75xxx 10/03 jblow
TD76176 10/03 Ryephile
TD76442 10/03 Chad B
TD76754 10/03 JustGo4It_
TD76906 10/03 BrianGoldbloom
TD77119 10/03 countrym
TD77442 10/03 LeeL
TD77948 10/03 rgonzalez
TD78393 11/03 johnnycircuit
TD78632 11/03 mgessouroun
TD78920 11/03 h_lank
TD79087 11/03 earlyapex
TD79183 11/03 d2mini
TD79457 11/03 MiniChristina
TD79661 11/03 Parklife
TD79674 11/03 stew7710
TD80285 12/03 ZFXR
TD80331 12/03 hnbrown
TD81140 00/04 04yellowS
TD81147 12/03 jdgross
TD82228 01/04 AmRov
TD83091 01/04 emerica
TD83472 02/04 Florida Chris
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I have incomplete information on the following. PM me with the info and I will update.
no vin 09/03 Spanky_03
no vin 09/03 mbur1024
no vin 10/03 Big&Mini
no vin 11/03 savage65
no vin 01/04 AmRov
no vin 01/04 atn57
no vin ??/?? Adrian
no vin ??/?? dgibbphoto
TD????? 07/03 GJR
TD67984 ??/03 jgalvin
TD73370 ??/03 reshultz
TD74156 ??/03 fishey72
TD75xxx 10/03 jblow
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TD50353 03/02 travelkids
TD51104 05/02 911RSAmerica
TD51401 05/02 2Cool
TD52855 06/02 BeerBrewer
TD53564 06/02 cpeters
TD54313 06/02 capsfan13
TD56015 07/02 sambusik
TD57170 08/02 weeber
TD58121 10/02 ScottG
TD58221 09/02 Mike87
TD58445 09/02 RECOOP
TD58934 09/02 baggins
TD60679 10/02 DaveNagy
TD61199 11/02 cooper44
TD62476 11/02 mudshark
TD64498 12/02 Minimoto
TD67615 03/03 tme
TD67659 03/03 Tokio LEMON 4/14/2004
TD67984 ??/03 jgalvin
TD68072 04/03 SB
TD68136 04/03 coopstas
TD68280 04/03 jblack
TD68554 04/03 jstines
TD68953 04/03 Darxar
TD69237 05/03 mmanasas
TD69433 05/03 allen_shelton
TD69664 05/03 Tugboat
TD69722 05/03 orthomini
TD70585 06/03 Wastik
TD70666 06/03 agokart
TD71389 06/03 manoo
TD71389 06/03 manoo
TD????? 07/03 GJR
TD72119 07/03 indygomini
TD72531 07/03 brit-in-usa
TD73370 ??/03 reshultz
TD73852 09/03 minionrails Ontario
TD74156 ??/03 fishey72
TD74337 09/03 KatanaPilot
TD74370 09/03 Ken G
TD74679 09/03 Greg B
TD74723 09/03 apexer
TD75054 09/03 mczinn
TD75106 09/03 fuzzyface
TD75257 09/03 dimi_mcs
TD75287 09/03 Michael30340
TD75554 09/03 MidMichMini
TD75586 09/03 Koopah
TD75xxx 10/03 jblow
TD76176 10/03 Ryephile
TD76442 10/03 Chad B
TD76754 10/03 JustGo4It_
TD76906 10/03 BrianGoldbloom
TD77119 10/03 countrym
TD77442 10/03 LeeL
TD77948 10/03 rgonzalez
TD78393 11/03 johnnycircuit
TD78632 11/03 mgessouroun
TD78920 11/03 h_lank
TD79087 11/03 earlyapex
TD79183 11/03 d2mini
TD79457 11/03 MiniChristina
TD79661 11/03 Parklife
TD79674 11/03 stew7710
TD80285 12/03 ZFXR
TD80331 12/03 hnbrown
TD81140 00/04 04yellowS
TD81147 12/03 jdgross
TD82228 01/04 AmRov
TD83091 01/04 emerica
TD83472 02/04 Florida Chris
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#421
04-18-2004, 11:13 AM
#422
04-19-2004, 05:14 PM
#423
04-19-2004, 08:54 PM
3rd Gear
I'm not sure this is the right thread to post this on, but ... close enough...
BMW of Hawaii installed V37 in my 2003 MCS (Lucy) on Saturday. Lucy didn't have any problems with yo-yo that I noticed, but she did have the stumble when shifting from neutral to first, and the colder she was, the worse it was. She also had a problem with starting on the first turnover when she was cold too (cold in Hawaii being in the low 60's).
I am happy to report that V37 seems to have fixed the stumble problem. Temp was in the low 60s this morning when I fired her up, and no problems there either. Of course, the only way to really assess this as a "fix" is to see how it works long-term, but so far, I am pleased (knock on wood!!!). V37 also seems to have eliminated most of the delay in acceleration. Lucy feels very peppy, quick, and responsive now.
With the old software, I was also constantly having problems matching RPMs when shifting. It is MUCH easier now and shifting is much smoother.
MINIangelD
BMW of Hawaii installed V37 in my 2003 MCS (Lucy) on Saturday. Lucy didn't have any problems with yo-yo that I noticed, but she did have the stumble when shifting from neutral to first, and the colder she was, the worse it was. She also had a problem with starting on the first turnover when she was cold too (cold in Hawaii being in the low 60's).
I am happy to report that V37 seems to have fixed the stumble problem. Temp was in the low 60s this morning when I fired her up, and no problems there either. Of course, the only way to really assess this as a "fix" is to see how it works long-term, but so far, I am pleased (knock on wood!!!). V37 also seems to have eliminated most of the delay in acceleration. Lucy feels very peppy, quick, and responsive now.
With the old software, I was also constantly having problems matching RPMs when shifting. It is MUCH easier now and shifting is much smoother.
MINIangelD
#424
04-19-2004, 09:58 PM
#425
04-21-2004, 10:11 PM
Ryan or Agokart-
regarding ryephix #1is there a down side to leaving the "the plastic linkage from the vacuum actuator" attached and just zip tying it in place? or is this a must remove from the butterfly arm lever...?
Curious- as I currently have just such a setup in place w/ryephix #1 and was looking for feedback... The Yo-Yo has disappeared and a smile is slowly creeping a cross my face the more I motor, but I just have this lingering question as to whether this i an issue?
Curious
-Okeeton
regarding ryephix #1is there a down side to leaving the "the plastic linkage from the vacuum actuator" attached and just zip tying it in place? or is this a must remove from the butterfly arm lever...?
Curious- as I currently have just such a setup in place w/ryephix #1 and was looking for feedback... The Yo-Yo has disappeared and a smile is slowly creeping a cross my face the more I motor, but I just have this lingering question as to whether this i an issue?
Curious
-Okeeton