After dealer visit, turn signal behaves differently & car feels less torquey
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After dealer visit, turn signal behaves differently & car feels less torquey
My 07 MCS was just in to the dealer with a CEL on. Despite the CEL being on, the car was running fine. The dealer said the CEL turned out to be for a bad thermostat. The dealer said they replaced the thermostat, the coolant, and "reprogrammed" the car under warranty.
Ever since the dealer visit, now the turn signal does not work the same as it did previously. It used to have a 3-flash lane change if you just tapped the stalk. And now it no longer does that. You only get one flash. Additionally (and even worse) the car feels less torquey and slower now than before the dealer touched it.
I am at a loss to explain how the lane change turn signal functionality up and disappeared. Could this have something to do with them "reprogramming" the car? What does that even mean if they say they "reprogrammed" it?? Is it possible that they reflashed my whole ECU with a version that deleted that feature and affected performance?
Ever since the dealer visit, now the turn signal does not work the same as it did previously. It used to have a 3-flash lane change if you just tapped the stalk. And now it no longer does that. You only get one flash. Additionally (and even worse) the car feels less torquey and slower now than before the dealer touched it.
I am at a loss to explain how the lane change turn signal functionality up and disappeared. Could this have something to do with them "reprogramming" the car? What does that even mean if they say they "reprogrammed" it?? Is it possible that they reflashed my whole ECU with a version that deleted that feature and affected performance?
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I imagine that when they say they reprogrammed that, yes, they reflashed the ECU.
The turn signal setting probably got reset to default and you'll have to go back and configure it to how you wanted it.
Not sure how the new ECU would impact performance, but that is probably the same source of any change you are experiencing.
The turn signal setting probably got reset to default and you'll have to go back and configure it to how you wanted it.
Not sure how the new ECU would impact performance, but that is probably the same source of any change you are experiencing.
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Car different after visit to dealership
You need to reprogram the blinker to 3 blinks in the system switch
on the end of the left blinker stem...It's in the owners manual and online at MINIUSA.com.
There's a torque to drive wheels computer reprogram which I going to ask them not to do when I get mine serviced again..I'll be really pissed if they do as I like the spontaneous kick which u lost at the dealer.
Lee
on the end of the left blinker stem...It's in the owners manual and online at MINIUSA.com.
There's a torque to drive wheels computer reprogram which I going to ask them not to do when I get mine serviced again..I'll be really pissed if they do as I like the spontaneous kick which u lost at the dealer.
Lee
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There is a rather lengthy thread in the Factory JCW section of the forum on the topic of power loss after an ECU re-flash; I believe folks driving the Cooper S have also noted it.
I don't know that there's ever been a definitive explanation of why this occurs; could be related to the torque-to-drive-wheels thing to which "KLOIN" refers...?
I don't know that there's ever been a definitive explanation of why this occurs; could be related to the torque-to-drive-wheels thing to which "KLOIN" refers...?
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The truly shocking thing is how often service technicians probably get someone to swallow this kind of tripe... Honestly: why would anyone accept that their car knows what season it is -- or what the driving conditions are and therefore which "programming" to use -- based solely on the outside temperature...?!
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The truly shocking thing is how often service technicians probably get someone to swallow this kind of tripe... Honestly: why would anyone accept that their car knows what season it is -- or what the driving conditions are and therefore which "programming" to use -- based solely on the outside temperature...?!
Fail...
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The dealer flashed my ECU to activate the alarm and iPod kit on my 07 MCS. I noted a huge decrease in power, smoothness was increased, exhaust note was quieter, and steering resistance was increased. I read that newer ECU program is less aggressive than original 07, to make the JCW kit more attractive. Dealer said that they cannot program an older version of software (they download ECU updates now vs. Using a CD).
I ended up adding the JCW Stage I kit to get my old MCS back. I love my car again!
It's not your imagination.
I ended up adding the JCW Stage I kit to get my old MCS back. I love my car again!
It's not your imagination.
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My interpretation of what "todoubled" reported he was told ("... a program designed for winter driving...") was that the technician implied that the vehicle could automatically compensate for different weather conditions -- not just temperature. And in order for the vehicle to do that, it would need a whole lot more information than it has -- and programming that just doesn't exist (not even on the Space Shuttle).
For example, just because the temperature is below 32 deg F/0 deg C doesn't necessarily mean there's snow on the road... In order for the vehicle to automatically use some "winter driving program," it would have to be able to accurately discern between a wide variety of driving conditions (dry, wet, icy, snow, etc.). Ambient temperature alone just doesn't give it all the information necessary to do that.
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"... a program designed for winter driving..." = the technician implied that the vehicle could automatically compensate for different weather conditions
I read that as the technician saying the vehicle could automatically compensate once it gets cold. We'd probably have to find out from the techinician what he (or she) meant by "winter driving" before we could conclude whether it was "tripe" or not.
I read that as the technician saying the vehicle could automatically compensate once it gets cold. We'd probably have to find out from the techinician what he (or she) meant by "winter driving" before we could conclude whether it was "tripe" or not.
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"... a program designed for winter driving..." = the technician implied that the vehicle could automatically compensate for different weather conditions
I read that as the technician saying the vehicle could automatically compensate once it gets cold. We'd probably have to find out from the techinician what he (or she) meant by "winter driving" before we could conclude whether it was "tripe" or not.
I read that as the technician saying the vehicle could automatically compensate once it gets cold. We'd probably have to find out from the techinician what he (or she) meant by "winter driving" before we could conclude whether it was "tripe" or not.
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Generally-speaking, I'm sorry to say, you don't. If you ask MINI to reinstall an older version of the vehicle's software, they will tell you they can't do it. Now, we all know they probably can do it ... but as a rule, they just won't...
All is not lost, though; tuning outfits might be able to help you. Of course, that's extra cash out of your pocket.
Personally, whenever I've taken mine in for even routine servicing, I've expressly told the SA not to change any software without consulting me. Mine still has the factory software in it -- and I aim to keep it...!
All is not lost, though; tuning outfits might be able to help you. Of course, that's extra cash out of your pocket.
Personally, whenever I've taken mine in for even routine servicing, I've expressly told the SA not to change any software without consulting me. Mine still has the factory software in it -- and I aim to keep it...!
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