Steering Wheel Jerks Once Upon Braking
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Steering Wheel Jerks Once Upon Braking
I have an '04 MCS, stock brakes, suspension, etc. 83k miles.
When I tap the brakes, the steering wheel jerks to the right depending on how hard I hit the brakes. This happens at all speeds, slow or fast, and after the jerk the car brakes normally - e.g. it doesn't pull to one side or the other. It doesn't always do this, but is about 6 out of 10 times.
Do Mini Coopers have any known problems concerning this, or should I look at the usual culprits like caliper sliders and brake lines? I searched and couldn't find anything on here.
When I tap the brakes, the steering wheel jerks to the right depending on how hard I hit the brakes. This happens at all speeds, slow or fast, and after the jerk the car brakes normally - e.g. it doesn't pull to one side or the other. It doesn't always do this, but is about 6 out of 10 times.
Do Mini Coopers have any known problems concerning this, or should I look at the usual culprits like caliper sliders and brake lines? I searched and couldn't find anything on here.
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I agree that the bushings are almost certainly in need of replacement. Go with polyurethanes- it's worth it. It's also worth checking the normal stuff, too, while you are in there: brake pads, possible sticking caliper, even tire pressures. I once had the symptoms you described (not on a MINI), and the cause was an internally-collapsed brake hose. $ 12 later it was good as new.
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Just saying...
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You do have to lower the subframe in order to get to the mounting bolts, but you can do it on jack stands - just don't put the jackstands under the subframe!
I've done two sets for KC Club member's cars. They're not fun, but not impossible either. Both cars I did were '03 S models, one had 150K and the other only 45K - both were shot, but the 150K ones were far worse.....
Both driver's reported extreme improvement in how the car drove once they were replaced, and the 150K mile car was having the braking issue you describe too. You should definitely have an alignment done after you replace them.
I doubt you need a bigger front anti-sway bar, most people opt for a larger rear bar....new bushings for it while you're in there are a good idea tho......
I've done two sets for KC Club member's cars. They're not fun, but not impossible either. Both cars I did were '03 S models, one had 150K and the other only 45K - both were shot, but the 150K ones were far worse.....
Both driver's reported extreme improvement in how the car drove once they were replaced, and the 150K mile car was having the braking issue you describe too. You should definitely have an alignment done after you replace them.
I doubt you need a bigger front anti-sway bar, most people opt for a larger rear bar....new bushings for it while you're in there are a good idea tho......
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I agree that the bushings are almost certainly in need of replacement. Go with polyurethanes- it's worth it. It's also worth checking the normal stuff, too, while you are in there: brake pads, possible sticking caliper, even tire pressures. I once had the symptoms you described (not on a MINI), and the cause was an internally-collapsed brake hose. $ 12 later it was good as new.
Just saying...
Just saying...
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Most people find that a front wheel drive car understeers, putting a larger front bar on will make this worse. It seems counterintuitive I know, but a larger rear bar will make the front end bite better. However, if you get carried away with the rear stiffness, you'll make the back end loose.
I was suggesting that if you replace the lower control arm bushings, you go ahead and replace the front sway bar bushings too, as you'll be working right in the same area, and they wear also.
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My MINI is the one with 150k that MINIdave helped with. Although the steering while braking has improved it is still very much there. I suspect something else is to blame. I am replacing shocks and struts within the next few weeks and if that doesn't help then I'm lost.
My steering wheel doesn't only jerk when braking but also accelerating and also just cruising down the road. The only way I can explain is the wheels jerk one way so i have to correct the steering wheel and then randomly they'll jerk back the other way and the steering wheel is straight again. I can't make it repeat, it does it randomly but it's a real PITA and certainly not safe either.
My steering wheel doesn't only jerk when braking but also accelerating and also just cruising down the road. The only way I can explain is the wheels jerk one way so i have to correct the steering wheel and then randomly they'll jerk back the other way and the steering wheel is straight again. I can't make it repeat, it does it randomly but it's a real PITA and certainly not safe either.
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Anything that was replaceable on the subframe with the exception of the tie rods.
I replaced:
-Inner Ball Joints
-Outer Ball Joints
-Control Arm Bushings (Powerflex)
-SwayBar Bushings (Powerflex)
-Steering Rack Bushing (Powerflex)
I replaced:
-Inner Ball Joints
-Outer Ball Joints
-Control Arm Bushings (Powerflex)
-SwayBar Bushings (Powerflex)
-Steering Rack Bushing (Powerflex)
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I checked the rack and all the connections to the rack and they look fine.
Another thing i forgot to mention, The DSC light comes on a lot, sometimes even when making a lane change on the highway but it can be triggered by letting off the gas in a long right turn, it doesnt seem to do it on left turns or sharp turns and it won't turn off until I'm out of the turn or slow down.
Could bad sway bar bushings cause this or bad shocks? I believe both are original w/ 156k miles
If either of these is the problem I will know very soon as I am replacing them within the next week hopefully.
Another thing i forgot to mention, The DSC light comes on a lot, sometimes even when making a lane change on the highway but it can be triggered by letting off the gas in a long right turn, it doesnt seem to do it on left turns or sharp turns and it won't turn off until I'm out of the turn or slow down.
Could bad sway bar bushings cause this or bad shocks? I believe both are original w/ 156k miles
If either of these is the problem I will know very soon as I am replacing them within the next week hopefully.
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