Timing chain issues
#452
Low oil?
+1 2009 MCS. I am worried my issue is coming back after about 16 months and 15000 miles since full timing chain job was done. When I start car, pull it out of the garage, turn it off for an hour or more, then restart it, I get a timing chain rattle. Doesn't happen with a normal start and drive away, only after a very brief start then sit. Anyone else have this issue?
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'08 Clubman S. 88,000 miles. Occasional rattle at startup. Took to dealer for recall and had them check chain/tensioner. 69 mm stretch. Quoted $2091.00 to fix. I raised hell because I have changed oil/filter every 5k since new. MINI offered to pay half if I could prove maintenance. I have bought every filter from the dealer under my name. They said yes, BUT, I didn't buy the oil from them... So, which dealers are quoting only $1700? Any experienced independent shops near Dayton/Cincinnati?
How urgent is it? Thoughts, anyone? Thanks.
How urgent is it? Thoughts, anyone? Thanks.
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'08 Clubman S. 88,000 miles. Occasional rattle at startup. Took to dealer for recall and had them check chain/tensioner. 69 mm stretch. Quoted $2091.00 to fix. I raised hell because I have changed oil/filter every 5k since new. MINI offered to pay half if I could prove maintenance. I have bought every filter from the dealer under my name. They said yes, BUT, I didn't buy the oil from them... So, which dealers are quoting only $1700? Any experienced independent shops near Dayton/Cincinnati?
How urgent is it? Thoughts, anyone? Thanks.
How urgent is it? Thoughts, anyone? Thanks.
Sorry. Try another dealership if possible.
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Just had the chain tensor changed out last week at the dealer and the light ticking stopped for a few days I was driving home from work last night and I heard it again but only when I was touching the gas then again this morning, I called and they said to check the oil level? I was just in last week! I checked it its fine.
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Just had the chain tensor changed out last week at the dealer and the light ticking stopped for a few days I was driving home from work last night and I heard it again but only when I was touching the gas then again this morning, I called and they said to check the oil level? I was just in last week! I checked it its fine.
Since I've had mine done back in Dec. it's been quiet as hell. No problems what so ever. Total cost was $1700 but I was only charged $500.
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The paperwork says they replaced the tensioner, I'm going to go in the morning before work 2morrow and have them take a look at it they said it could be the chain itself or a cover a number of things so they will take a look at it, I need to get my last oil change before the warranty is up anyway I'm at 28k; my mini is growing up so fast lol
My understanding is the actual tensioner bolt was too short and was not adjusting the chain properly. Just changing the tensioner bolt out is not solving the other issues the orig. one caused.
Just my two cents.
Good luck.
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Just an FYI, and I'm no mechanic just going to repeat what my SA and MA said. They will NOT just change out a piece of the timing chain problem since the miles have already taken their toll on the parts. They have not had a job come back to them since they started replacing them.
My understanding is the actual tensioner bolt was too short and was not adjusting the chain properly. Just changing the tensioner bolt out is not solving the other issues the orig. one caused.
Just my two cents.
Good luck.
My understanding is the actual tensioner bolt was too short and was not adjusting the chain properly. Just changing the tensioner bolt out is not solving the other issues the orig. one caused.
Just my two cents.
Good luck.
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Muzak - that they do. Ever since I've used them they have been great in all respects. I only wish all dealerships had their ethics.
I even have them install my after market items and they have been very good to me on that as well.
Don't know what I'd do if I had a cruddy dealership like some folks have commented.
I even have them install my after market items and they have been very good to me on that as well.
Don't know what I'd do if I had a cruddy dealership like some folks have commented.
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+1 2007 MCS
Recently had work done at independent shop, due to rattle was extremely loud and closest mini dealer is 3+ hours away.
On a side note; now i no longer have the performance. Any body out there experiencing or have experienced the same and what was done to fix it.
Recently had work done at independent shop, due to rattle was extremely loud and closest mini dealer is 3+ hours away.
On a side note; now i no longer have the performance. Any body out there experiencing or have experienced the same and what was done to fix it.
They didn't do any reprogramming of your ECU while it was in the shop did they?
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I'm not sure about this ""BUT""
After they did my timing chain and recall the dealer put in the latest program into my computer. My car has more snap and seems to run much better.
I'm wondering if using the shop and not the dealer that losing power has something to do with your programming.
I'm wondering if using the shop and not the dealer that losing power has something to do with your programming.
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Thanks to both ronnie948 and drsimmons for quick reply's. I am not sure if the did any reprogramming of the ECU or not; suppose I can call them Monday and find out. They are not really a MINI shop but specialize in European motors, do I lot of work on BMW's. That is the main reason I used them. So maybe all I need is some programming done to it.
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Thanks to both ronnie948 and drsimmons for quick reply's. I am not sure if the did any reprogramming of the ECU or not; suppose I can call them Monday and find out. They are not really a MINI shop but specialize in European motors, do I lot of work on BMW's. That is the main reason I used them. So maybe all I need is some programming done to it.
Ronnie948 may be able to confirm that. Looked at my invoice
from timing chain fix and it doesn't show anything any programming.
It could be something as simple as a hose leaking air or an electrical
connection that's not solid.
Seems whenever someone tears into their motor (modding or whatever), many times they have CEL's or rough running issues.
Remember one guy merely had a downpipe hose off. Once hooked back up it was fine. So, point is, it's proabably something simple.
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'08 Clubman S. 88,000 miles. Occasional rattle at startup. Took to dealer for recall and had them check chain/tensioner. 69 mm stretch. Quoted $2091.00 to fix. I raised hell because I have changed oil/filter every 5k since new. MINI offered to pay half if I could prove maintenance. I have bought every filter from the dealer under my name. They said yes, BUT, I didn't buy the oil from them... So, which dealers are quoting only $1700? Any experienced independent shops near Dayton/Cincinnati?
How urgent is it? Thoughts, anyone? Thanks.
How urgent is it? Thoughts, anyone? Thanks.
Anyway, it's been two weeks since I had mine fixed and, knock on wood, so far so good. They changed the whole shebang on mine: two bearing bolts, gasket ring, two torx bolts, hex bolt, guide rail, tensioner, sprocket, chain, slide rail. My chain measured 70mm and the intake cam had jumped 1 tooth. Luckily, I just avoided valve damage. I have an '07 with close to 53,000 on the car. It is very serious and the more you wait to get it fixed, the more you're gambling with damaging the motor.
Car is so much quieter now, like the day I bought it. It's amazing how used to a noisy engine I had become.