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Old 01-17-2012, 08:00 AM
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1st time changing oil ..

Did anyone have a hard time putting the oil filter cover back ON ?

My oil change was going well .. got it drained, put the Fumoto valve on and the filter off with. When putting the new filter / cover assembly back on, it kept trying to cross thread itself and for about 30 minutes would not keep itself straight. I was finally able to finesse with extreme slowmotion, and now I have some paranoid feelings about.

has this happened to you?

Is this thing supposed to screw on a bit then require the use of the socket to tighten down the rest of the way? I screwed it on, heard some squeaking ( I assume the rubber gasket seal making contact) and then just stopped - as if there were no more turning it can possibly go.

I let it be and everything seems fine. light went off immediately upon starting ..

 
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:41 AM
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Did you smear a bit of oil on seal?
 
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I did! I even dunked the the o-ring in oil bottle.

DIY oil change seemed easy enough. Wondered why this portion was such a pain ...
 
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did you make sure filter was "snapped" into the housing?

Look around 3:55 into the video to see what I'm talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5nk-AI6t0
 
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I've found that using grease on the rubber seal instead of oil works better. The O-ring needs to be free to move in its groove and the grease does a good job.

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Originally Posted by scf
did you make sure filter was "snapped" into the housing?

Look around 3:55 into the video to see what I'm talking about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea5nk-AI6t0
yeah .. I definitely heard that *Pop*. Even double squeezed it again after my first couple of attempts to screw it on.

Maybe I'll try grease next time, but why it would try to cross thread itself is beyond me considering the threads were pretty wide / coarse and not fine threaded.
 
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:46 PM
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I dont think it was cross theading that you were feeling. I've done a bunch of oil changes on my mini and I always have to put the socket back on the canister to get it back on. It was probably just the o-ring not allowing it to thread on easily.
 
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a shame you did not read the 10,245 threads on this topic . . . .

seach just for those on my name and you'll find plenty

some might even be useful

short version - when putting the can back on, push down hard and turn until you can't turn by hand .... then check by wrench
 
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Capt bj .. I have read through the seemingly never ending posts about oil change mishaps to include the common stuck oil filter cover, the over torqued oil filter cover, the wrong oil filter, the missing spring and plastic cage dilemma of the oil oil filter cover. i even watched the video posted above, but they didn't have the same issue I did - reason for this thread.

gary - yeah it was definitely trying to cross thread itself. one side would thread in, but my fingers would feel a gap on the other side. It did that no matter how square and how hard I pushed. I ended up getting it on with some finesse, but by no means a quick and easy task.
 
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Late to the party, I also followed all the instructions, but so far for 3 oil changes I've done, 2 of 3 have wanted to cross thread, and yes, it took many tries to get it right. One time it went right on, no problems. I would be VERY wary of using a wrench for all but the last bit of tightening after the housing is firmly seated against the engine mount. If you can feel it binding up and that it's uneven around the gap, it is! Don't keep going!
 
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I knew i wasn't the only one.
 
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from:
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getting the can back on can be a pain.

what works for me is to get the can in place and turn 'off' pressing down until I feel the threads click indicating they are lined up

then as I turn 'on' I press down HARD. You are fightling both the pressure against the filter and a spring so it takes some pressure down to get the darn thing to turn freely. After a turn or two you should begin to feel the rubber ring begin to engage and the can will sort of grab and slide . . keep turning I always end up needing to use the wrench to get the can down flush and never worry about the torque cuz it takes a good UGH just to get the can flush. Feel around the edge of the can and ensure you're down flush - and you'll also be checking for a booboo bit of o-ring sticking out but I've never borked one since I started the 'push down hard' method.

I still do oil changes for some others with GEN1's and have shown others this trick and it works for us . . . and we lube it too of course
 
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