Stock Problems/Issues Discussions related to warranty related issues and repairs, or other problems with the OEM parts and software for MINI Clubman (R55), Cooper and Cooper S(R56), and Cabrio (R57).

Shifting is "Notchy"?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 03-21-2012, 09:28 AM
ORazor's Avatar
ORazor
ORazor is offline
1st Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Shifting is "Notchy"?

Hi all,

I have a 2007 MCS with around 37k on it that I picked up in February. I've noticed that shifting (that actual process of moving the shifter from one gear to another) is not a very smooth process, but rather it seems that I hit "notches" going from one gear to another. The car I learned manual on (Toyota Camry) was like butter - just a smooth sensation as I moved the shifter.

Is (1) this normal, and (2) can I make it any better?

Thanks guys,
Bill
 
  #2  
Old 03-21-2012, 12:53 PM
Creeve's Avatar
Creeve
Creeve is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,153
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Yes the shifter is normally notchy.

Every modification I am aware of for the shifter will just make it more notchy.
 
  #3  
Old 03-22-2012, 04:46 AM
ORazor's Avatar
ORazor
ORazor is offline
1st Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why would they make a transmission that wasn't smooth to operate?

On a side note - every once in a while, there is a shift where there was no resistance, which makes me imagine what driving the MINI could be like if shifting was better. That makes it that much worse for me!

Thanks for your response.
 
  #4  
Old 03-22-2012, 07:08 AM
axleR56's Avatar
axleR56
axleR56 is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Central CT
Posts: 236
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I guess the best answer would be:

For the same reason that our suspension isn't bouncy and comfortable...it takes away from the sportiness. I find that my MCS shifter has a positive and engaging feel. Definitely not the notchiest shifter I've ever used though
 
  #5  
Old 03-22-2012, 08:11 AM
teamrubixcube's Avatar
teamrubixcube
teamrubixcube is offline
4th Gear
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Northern CT
Posts: 450
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Make sure that you aren't 'pulling' the gear into position. Proper shifting technique is to 'push' or help it glide into position. I have noticed that if you guide it instead of having a firm grip then it is much better/easier to shift. I make sure to have my hand cupped over the **** so that my fingers or palm can push it into gear. This way the stick takes the most natural route. (I love all the innuendoes )

Hopefully this helps a bit. It will still be notchy, but compared to other cars I've driven it is very direct. A 2007 Mazda 3 is smooth, but there was far too much play and sometimes I didn't know which gear I was going into. My father's '67 Mustang...now THAT is notchy!
 
  #6  
Old 03-22-2012, 10:14 AM
AdrenaliNate's Avatar
AdrenaliNate
AdrenaliNate is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Simi Valley, CA
Posts: 279
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by ORazor
On a side note - every once in a while, there is a shift where there was no resistance, which makes me imagine what driving the MINI could be like if shifting was better.
With an NM short shift adapter I naturally have notchier shifts, but I agree that some days (independent of ambient temp, engine temp or transmission temp) there seems to be a lot less resistance.
 
  #7  
Old 03-22-2012, 11:08 AM
ORazor's Avatar
ORazor
ORazor is offline
1st Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 35
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by AdrenaliNate
With an NM short shift adapter I naturally have notchier shifts, but I agree that some days (independent of ambient temp, engine temp or transmission temp) there seems to be a lot less resistance.

This is what makes me wonder if there's something (different grease, transmission fluid, etc) that can make it a smoother feeling?

I've never driven another MINI, so I'm wondering if mine is the same as every else's, or worse.
 
  #8  
Old 03-23-2012, 09:58 AM
sbeezy's Avatar
sbeezy
sbeezy is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Port Arthur,TX
Posts: 255
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
The 2 first gen MINIs i test drove were notchy... i will report back on the R56 when i go test drive it in a week or 2.
 
  #9  
Old 03-23-2012, 10:31 AM
brohammer619's Avatar
brohammer619
brohammer619 is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
weird, my 2009 is incredibly smooth to move through the gears
 
  #10  
Old 03-23-2012, 07:00 PM
kayakxb's Avatar
kayakxb
kayakxb is offline
1st Gear
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Aurora IL
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by brohammer619
weird, my 2009 is incredibly smooth to move through the gears
I imagine some will think their Mini is notchy, some smooth and some in between. It probably has a lot to do with what you have driven in the past and what your expectations are of the car. Like the OP said, he learned on a Camry that was smooth as butter.

I like my Mini, I find it easy to drive, not notchy at all.

On the other end of the spectrum, I recently had an F350 that shifted as smooth as moving a stick through a box of rocks.
 
  #11  
Old 03-24-2012, 04:39 AM
JimR56JCW's Avatar
JimR56JCW
JimR56JCW is offline
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Beaufort, SC
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
For me, notchy means precise, sporty shifting. Smooth like butter means sloppy and vague.
 
  #12  
Old 03-24-2012, 09:55 AM
JPMM's Avatar
JPMM
JPMM is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (7)
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: East IA
Posts: 2,787
Received 10 Likes on 10 Posts
__________ is nice if it means precise glide motion, without any sloppyness, precise stops without any vagueness, a little resistance , that gives you the proper feedback,
the holygail is the proper "snick" into the gear

Originally Posted by JimR56JCW
For me, notchy means precise, sporty shifting. Smooth like butter means sloppy and vague.
 
  #13  
Old 03-15-2021, 07:15 PM
no1stunner's Avatar
no1stunner
no1stunner is offline
1st Gear
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 38
Received 9 Likes on 4 Posts
I would highly recommend the helix short shifter.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
no1stunner
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
7
03-21-2021 06:34 PM
epanarese
Stock Problems/Issues
5
02-13-2011 12:44 PM
VoiD
Stock Problems/Issues
5
03-24-2010 11:30 AM
ball7068
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
4
09-29-2003 04:11 PM



Quick Reply: Shifting is "Notchy"?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:14 AM.