Replacing Control Arm Bushings - What else?
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Replacing Control Arm Bushings - What else?
I'm going to be replacing the control arm bushings on my mini.
Since a lot of stuff gets taken apart, what else should I replace down there? I heard ball joints aren't a bad idea.
It's a 2003 S and I just broke 100K miles on her.
Also, any tips or hints to make the job a bit easier? Found this for dropping the sub frame: http://www.minicooperspeed.com/mini-...-r50-r53remov/
And I will have access to a lift.
Thanks in advance!
Since a lot of stuff gets taken apart, what else should I replace down there? I heard ball joints aren't a bad idea.
It's a 2003 S and I just broke 100K miles on her.
Also, any tips or hints to make the job a bit easier? Found this for dropping the sub frame: http://www.minicooperspeed.com/mini-...-r50-r53remov/
And I will have access to a lift.
Thanks in advance!
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By that many miles there are a lot of suspension parts that get worn out.
Check engine mounts and all suspension bushings front and back.
Stock bushings are not as stiff and polyurethane but offer a less jarring ride for street use.
If you have not done an alignment in 8+ months then that might be good to get done once all the work is done.
Did you replace your clutch yet?
Check engine mounts and all suspension bushings front and back.
Stock bushings are not as stiff and polyurethane but offer a less jarring ride for street use.
If you have not done an alignment in 8+ months then that might be good to get done once all the work is done.
Did you replace your clutch yet?
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Was gonna do all of this with my buddy (He has a lift). Looks like we may have bit off a little more than we can chew... Gonna look into getting a bunch of this stuff done somewhere.
We got it on the lift and the tire rods are definitely bad. I got a quote for just the bushings at the dealer for around 700...
Clutch still feels great. Everyone who takes her for a spin comments on it. Anything I should watch out for?
We got it on the lift and the tire rods are definitely bad. I got a quote for just the bushings at the dealer for around 700...
Clutch still feels great. Everyone who takes her for a spin comments on it. Anything I should watch out for?
#5
I would suggest replacing the ball joints along with the LCA bushings.
Here is a complete kit:
http://www.waymotorworks.com/powerfl...ll-joints.html
Here is a complete kit:
http://www.waymotorworks.com/powerfl...ll-joints.html
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I would suggest replacing the ball joints along with the LCA bushings.
Here is a complete kit:
http://www.waymotorworks.com/powerfl...ll-joints.html
Here is a complete kit:
http://www.waymotorworks.com/powerfl...ll-joints.html
Have you done the control arm bushings before? Is it really as difficult as it looks?
I like that kit you have there and want to get it all done. Mini just quoted me $1300 just for the control arm bushing and tirerods.
From what I've read, you need to take the lower the subframe; take the bumper off; do a bunch of stuff. Is this all true?
Any helpful hints would be great.
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Have you done the control arm bushings before? Is it really as difficult as it looks?
I like that kit you have there and want to get it all done. Mini just quoted me $1300 just for the control arm bushing and tirerods.
From what I've read, you need to take the lower the subframe; take the bumper off; do a bunch of stuff. Is this all true?
Any helpful hints would be great.
I like that kit you have there and want to get it all done. Mini just quoted me $1300 just for the control arm bushing and tirerods.
From what I've read, you need to take the lower the subframe; take the bumper off; do a bunch of stuff. Is this all true?
Any helpful hints would be great.
This is a great time to check your powersteering hoses for leaks too, since they tend to crack and leak, would be super easy to replace while subframe is out. If you can afford it, do the ball joints too, one of the guides from k-huevo has a tool you can buy for like $18 to pop ball joints and tie rod ends out, works wonders!
The entire job took me about 7 hours, but if I had to do it again, I could probably do it in 3-4.
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Have you done the control arm bushings before? Is it really as difficult as it looks?
I like that kit you have there and want to get it all done. Mini just quoted me $1300 just for the control arm bushing and tirerods.
From what I've read, you need to take the lower the subframe; take the bumper off; do a bunch of stuff. Is this all true?
Any helpful hints would be great.
I like that kit you have there and want to get it all done. Mini just quoted me $1300 just for the control arm bushing and tirerods.
From what I've read, you need to take the lower the subframe; take the bumper off; do a bunch of stuff. Is this all true?
Any helpful hints would be great.
-Jorge
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#12
I would suggest replacing the ball joints along with the LCA bushings.
Here is a complete kit:
http://www.waymotorworks.com/powerfl...ll-joints.html
Here is a complete kit:
http://www.waymotorworks.com/powerfl...ll-joints.html
I agree!! I replaced my LCA bushings, and swaybar bushings, upper shock mounts, and installed Koni LSD shocks a few months ago. The one thing I didn't do....replace all the ball joints.
Well...guess what's starting to make noise now? Ball joints.....I wish I would have replaced them when I had the front sub frame out.
Also, check the power steering hoses like the other guys have said.
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I have done the long version of dropping the sub frame.. I installed the ALTA bushings, they rattle after awhile but other than that I was initially very pleased with them.
It's time (131,300 miles) to refresh everything so in the spring, it's all new bushings.
Yes it's a lot of work but it saves me a lot of money.
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Yes, I did. No, you don't have to drop the sub-frame. No, you don't need to go into "service mode" (pulling the bumper cover). After watching the above video, I figured, why not? I didn't use a torch, tho...just a $20 Sawsall from Harbor Freight. Popped the control arms off the ball joints with a "pickle fork", removed the control arms and reamed out the bushings with the Sawsall. (Not a fun job laying on your back on the garage floor). Replaced the bushings with polyurethane ones using a "tool" I rigged like the one in the video. I used large, thick washers on threaded rod.
Installing the inner ball joints was made easier by a tip I learned from a fellow NAM member who told me to remove the front hubs, thereby allowing the half-shafts to be raised up so you can access the ball joint mounting bolts.
All in all, this was much easier than I expected....and much less expensive!
Installing the inner ball joints was made easier by a tip I learned from a fellow NAM member who told me to remove the front hubs, thereby allowing the half-shafts to be raised up so you can access the ball joint mounting bolts.
All in all, this was much easier than I expected....and much less expensive!
Last edited by NC TRACKRAT; 12-27-2012 at 04:35 PM.
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I'm going to be replacing the control arm bushings on my mini.
Since a lot of stuff gets taken apart, what else should I replace down there? I heard ball joints aren't a bad idea.
It's a 2003 S and I just broke 100K miles on her.
Also, any tips or hints to make the job a bit easier? Found this for dropping the sub frame: http://www.minicooperspeed.com/mini-...-r50-r53remov/
And I will have access to a lift.
Thanks in advance!
Since a lot of stuff gets taken apart, what else should I replace down there? I heard ball joints aren't a bad idea.
It's a 2003 S and I just broke 100K miles on her.
Also, any tips or hints to make the job a bit easier? Found this for dropping the sub frame: http://www.minicooperspeed.com/mini-...-r50-r53remov/
And I will have access to a lift.
Thanks in advance!
#21
For others reading (kinda old thread), replacing the control arm bushings is not terribly complicated, but unfortunately the subframe has to be dropped: http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...eplacement.htm
-Jorge
-Jorge
#22
This is a great thread. I'm in the process of compiling parts to knock this job out in the spring (or at least until it gets a little warmer). I'm at 192k on the original LCA bushings so I'm planning on replacing a lot while I'm in there. LCA, ball joints, tie-rod ends, sway bar bushings, Koni's, springs?, PS lines and oil pan gasket.
Thanks for the heads up!
Thanks for the heads up!
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