Stock Problems/Issues Discussions related to warranty related issues and repairs, or other problems with the OEM parts and software for MINI Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

Burning oil?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 08-18-2012, 09:00 PM
Applesauce's Avatar
Applesauce
Applesauce is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Calgary
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Burning oil?

My R53 (2005, 100k km) is burning oil. I'm thinking about 1.5 litres per 10k km, but I haven't calculated accurately, and plan to do so following my next oil change. Note this is NOT a leak. It's definitely burning (parked in a very clean garage).

Does your Mini burn a fair amount of oil? Any ideas what it could be, and what potential solutions there could be? Are R53s prone to leaky valve seals or anything like that?
 
  #2  
Old 08-19-2012, 04:11 AM
Blackbomber's Avatar
Blackbomber
Blackbomber is offline
5th Gear
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Central CT
Posts: 982
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
My 2002 R50 with 227,000km uses maybe a half liter in 16,000km (my OCI).

Given my car is not an R53, it's probably a worthless comparison, but it's the best I can do.
 
  #3  
Old 08-19-2012, 04:26 AM
ZippyNH's Avatar
ZippyNH
ZippyNH is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 12,605
Likes: 0
Received 35 Likes on 35 Posts
Mini engines, seem to burn oil often....kinda depends on luck, history, and (imo) how they were broken-in). Just keep it filled up, and some leaks get blown back to the point if no drips...so still look around, but does not sound like a concern.
 
  #4  
Old 08-20-2012, 05:55 PM
jamez's Avatar
jamez
jamez is offline
5th Gear
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Stoney Creek, Ontario
Posts: 962
Received 34 Likes on 26 Posts
FWIW, after I spun a rod bearing on #1 the dealer told me I was 3 LITERS low. The previous oil change was less than 6 months before and there was no evidence of a leak or burn.

Needless to say, I'm in the process of a full engine rebuild ($5300+) and will be checking my oil weekly (silly me for owning cars previous to this that didn't consume copious quantities of oil). Idiot tax paid in full.

BTW -it was 20,000Kms I travelled during that 3L burn so be careful


(2005 MCS 95,000Kms)
 

Last edited by jamez; 08-20-2012 at 06:27 PM.
  #5  
Old 08-20-2012, 08:54 PM
K20K1LLA's Avatar
K20K1LLA
K20K1LLA is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
There's a few spots that the W11 engine likes to bleed oil. One is the oft-mentioned crank position sensor. It will leak oil on the crankcase behind the SC. Leaks will almost never appear on the ground, instead being blown back or burned off. Second is the rear main seal. Its just a piece of nylon but it will go bad. Lastly, the oil filter housing has an o-ring seal on it. If this is not replaced at every oil change it will dry out and air can seep in and burn the oil.

I too fell prey to not checking my oil frequently enough and had to replace it last year. That engine was not only seeping out of the rear main seal but also the CPS. Oil starvation caused me to throw the #1 rod bearing. I got out fairly lucky and doing it myself only cost about $2200.
 
  #6  
Old 08-20-2012, 09:29 PM
Applesauce's Avatar
Applesauce
Applesauce is offline
3rd Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Calgary
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
I'm thinking I should have a closer look at the crank-position sensor. I'm going to have the SC off before too much longer, and that would be a perfect time, but I stupidly forgot to order things I need to fix this. Is it just a seal? An o-ring? A new crank-position sensor?
 
  #7  
Old 08-21-2012, 10:15 AM
K20K1LLA's Avatar
K20K1LLA
K20K1LLA is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 83
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
http://www.waymotorworks.com/cranksh...or-o-ring.html

Just the o-ring will do. FYI, you will need to put the car in "service mode" in order to change the CPS. Its not difficult just follow the instructions in the Bentley manual. Oh yeah, and get a Bentley manual :P
 
  #8  
Old 08-21-2012, 01:14 PM
JumpingJackFlash's Avatar
JumpingJackFlash
JumpingJackFlash is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Yorktown, VA
Posts: 1,361
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Also consider you might be pulling some oil through the PCV hose. Both my old '02 MCS and current '06 MCS seem to go through about a half quart every 2K miles or so. No smoke or burning that I can ever see. And it is common the oil pans develop small leaks. Both of mine did/do, too.
 
  #9  
Old 08-21-2012, 01:42 PM
markjenn's Avatar
markjenn
markjenn is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 779
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
The expectation that your car should automatically have such low oil consumption that checking it between oil changes is unnecessary is not reasonable. Oil consumption varies from engine to engine, even with new cars.

Mini says you should check your oil at every refueling; while this may be a bit excessive, to let a car engine go for thousands of miles without checking oil is gross negligence on the part of the owner. I monitor mine every month or so and if it would start using more, I'd monitor more frequently.

The consumption rates given by the OP and the person who damaged their engine are quite reasonable overall at about 1 qt per 4K miles. There is absolutely nothing wrong with an engine using this much oil. It is well WELL within the range of normal for any car engine.

- Mark
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Colt45Magnus
1st Gear
23
07-14-2019 06:18 PM
KrisMiss
Stock Problems/Issues
12
01-03-2016 02:02 PM
danielbrookes_9
Stock Problems/Issues
20
10-03-2015 12:51 PM
gmonde
MINIs & Minis for Sale
1
09-08-2015 06:37 AM
elightbo
1st Gear
13
08-17-2015 01:50 PM



Quick Reply: Burning oil?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:42 PM.