Replace motor @ 65K!?
#1
Replace motor @ 65K!?
Background-
2003 Mini Cooper S w/65K
Second owner, bought from original owner (80 year old) @ 22K 3 years ago
All regular maintenance complete, car is babied
Mildy modified: performance mods = 15% pulley package (professionally installed w/JCW plugs & proper belt), CAI, MSD coil pack & wires
Occasional spirited driving, but it is my 60 mile highway commuter M-F
CEL light came on last week-
(shortly after I had coolant flush done at Valvoline Instant)
Brought car into local European Specialist b/c check engine light came on
Car is running perfectly fine in my opinion w/exception of yellow glow of CEL light on dash
I was told the following from the shop:
Check Engine Light Codes: Technician scanned the car for codes
and found code 0302 misfire #2 detected and 2404-leakage diag
pump-measuring range or power problem. First code is for #2
misfiring. Ran misfire test with Autologic and it detects a miss.
Checked comp. and 134 at 150. 2 is at 120 which is 10 PSI below
minimum spec. Possible burned valve. Can run leak down test to
verify.
Second code is related to EVAP. Ran test and it passed. Possible
leakage pump in early stages of failure. Recommend seeing what
happens.
Perform Cylinder Leak Down Test
Technician did the cylinder leakage test and #2 has 60% leakage.
Can hear air coming out of dipstick tube indicating bad rings.
Recommend replacing the motor…
$8,245.09
Any help would be much appreciated, & thank you in advance for any suggestions!
2003 Mini Cooper S w/65K
Second owner, bought from original owner (80 year old) @ 22K 3 years ago
All regular maintenance complete, car is babied
Mildy modified: performance mods = 15% pulley package (professionally installed w/JCW plugs & proper belt), CAI, MSD coil pack & wires
Occasional spirited driving, but it is my 60 mile highway commuter M-F
CEL light came on last week-
(shortly after I had coolant flush done at Valvoline Instant)
Brought car into local European Specialist b/c check engine light came on
Car is running perfectly fine in my opinion w/exception of yellow glow of CEL light on dash
I was told the following from the shop:
Check Engine Light Codes: Technician scanned the car for codes
and found code 0302 misfire #2 detected and 2404-leakage diag
pump-measuring range or power problem. First code is for #2
misfiring. Ran misfire test with Autologic and it detects a miss.
Checked comp. and 134 at 150. 2 is at 120 which is 10 PSI below
minimum spec. Possible burned valve. Can run leak down test to
verify.
Second code is related to EVAP. Ran test and it passed. Possible
leakage pump in early stages of failure. Recommend seeing what
happens.
Perform Cylinder Leak Down Test
Technician did the cylinder leakage test and #2 has 60% leakage.
Can hear air coming out of dipstick tube indicating bad rings.
Recommend replacing the motor…
$8,245.09
Any help would be much appreciated, & thank you in advance for any suggestions!
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#4
Get a second opinion.
Generally, when you get a misfire code.. It's due to a bad coil/plug/injector.
A weak cylinder won't code if its just a few psi below spec... Plus...
Do you burn oil? Do you see smoke out of the exhaust under power pulls? Is there crazy blow-by when you pull the oil cap off? Those are signs of weak rings...
Generally, when you get a misfire code.. It's due to a bad coil/plug/injector.
A weak cylinder won't code if its just a few psi below spec... Plus...
Do you burn oil? Do you see smoke out of the exhaust under power pulls? Is there crazy blow-by when you pull the oil cap off? Those are signs of weak rings...
#5
Get a second opinion.
Generally, when you get a misfire code.. It's due to a bad coil/plug/injector.
A weak cylinder won't code if its just a few psi below spec... Plus...
Do you burn oil? Do you see smoke out of the exhaust under power pulls? Is there crazy blow-by when you pull the oil cap off? Those are signs of weak rings...
Generally, when you get a misfire code.. It's due to a bad coil/plug/injector.
A weak cylinder won't code if its just a few psi below spec... Plus...
Do you burn oil? Do you see smoke out of the exhaust under power pulls? Is there crazy blow-by when you pull the oil cap off? Those are signs of weak rings...
#6
Do you burn oil? Do you see smoke out of the exhaust under power pulls? Is there crazy blow-by when you pull the oil cap off? Those are signs of weak rings..
-Does not burn oil
-no smoke on pulls
-no blow by w/oil cap off
-never gone into limp mode
When getting second opinion, should I mention anything specific to the new garage?
Thanks again to all for your input!
-Does not burn oil
-no smoke on pulls
-no blow by w/oil cap off
-never gone into limp mode
When getting second opinion, should I mention anything specific to the new garage?
Thanks again to all for your input!
#7
Do you burn oil? Do you see smoke out of the exhaust under power pulls? Is there crazy blow-by when you pull the oil cap off? Those are signs of weak rings..
-Does not burn oil
-no smoke on pulls
-no blow by w/oil cap off
-never gone into limp mode
When getting second opinion, should I mention anything specific to the new garage?
Thanks again to all for your input!
-Does not burn oil
-no smoke on pulls
-no blow by w/oil cap off
-never gone into limp mode
When getting second opinion, should I mention anything specific to the new garage?
Thanks again to all for your input!
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#8
The first shop was ArborMotion in Ann Arbor, MI. I normally go to Detroit Tuned to have my car worked on, but I didn't want to drive it that far if there was actually something wrong with it (DT guys are the best, but are only open during the week & are typically pretty booked up in my experience).
#9
The first shop was ArborMotion in Ann Arbor, MI. I normally go to Detroit Tuned to have my car worked on, but I didn't want to drive it that far if there was actually something wrong with it (DT guys are the best, but are only open during the week & are typically pretty booked up in my experience).
#10
You might want to give http://www.convenienceauto.com/ a try. They are smarter than most and will give you a straight answer.
Before too long I hope..., there should be a Mini dealer in Ann Arbor. They've put in sod and are looking like they are close to opening after a long gestation period...
Before too long I hope..., there should be a Mini dealer in Ann Arbor. They've put in sod and are looking like they are close to opening after a long gestation period...
#11
Did you find out what was wrong? My wife just had an issue with her mini cooper s. the number 2 cylinder was 60% loss on a leak down test. Tore the motor down found a burnt valve and bad rings. Currently rebuilding the engine.From what i have seen it the forums burnt valves are becoming a common issue.
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