Help - Project '08 MCS
#1
Help - Project '08 MCS
Hello
My first post, so forgive me if I placed it in the wrong area. Not afraid of a project but before I begin, would appreciate some advice from the experts out there.
Last week I bought a beautiful 2008 MCS with 63K miles from the original owner.
According to the owner, she drove it to work without any issues. At the end of the day it would not start (but would turn over/crank) Towed it to a local non Mini garage and was told it was timing issue. Mechanics removed the valve cover and saw the chain had not broken but the plastic from the top support was missing (chunks visible near the crank). Local garage would not attempt a repair, out of warranty and wanting to get another vehicle she offered it to me at a very reasonable price.
I attempted a compression check but learned my fittings won't work on the Mini. Guessing that's another special tool for the Mini. So before I order a timing chain kit and the cam lock tool(s), I'm wondering if I'm wasting money. What are the odds the valves aren't damaged? Should I just look for a salvage engine?
Appreciate your experience and thoughts
Clift
My first post, so forgive me if I placed it in the wrong area. Not afraid of a project but before I begin, would appreciate some advice from the experts out there.
Last week I bought a beautiful 2008 MCS with 63K miles from the original owner.
According to the owner, she drove it to work without any issues. At the end of the day it would not start (but would turn over/crank) Towed it to a local non Mini garage and was told it was timing issue. Mechanics removed the valve cover and saw the chain had not broken but the plastic from the top support was missing (chunks visible near the crank). Local garage would not attempt a repair, out of warranty and wanting to get another vehicle she offered it to me at a very reasonable price.
I attempted a compression check but learned my fittings won't work on the Mini. Guessing that's another special tool for the Mini. So before I order a timing chain kit and the cam lock tool(s), I'm wondering if I'm wasting money. What are the odds the valves aren't damaged? Should I just look for a salvage engine?
Appreciate your experience and thoughts
Clift
#2
Hello
My first post, so forgive me if I placed it in the wrong area. Not afraid of a project but before I begin, would appreciate some advice from the experts out there.
Last week I bought a beautiful 2008 MCS with 63K miles from the original owner.
According to the owner, she drove it to work without any issues. At the end of the day it would not start (but would turn over/crank) Towed it to a local non Mini garage and was told it was timing issue. Mechanics removed the valve cover and saw the chain had not broken but the plastic from the top support was missing (chunks visible near the crank). Local garage would not attempt a repair, out of warranty and wanting to get another vehicle she offered it to me at a very reasonable price.
I attempted a compression check but learned my fittings won't work on the Mini. Guessing that's another special tool for the Mini. So before I order a timing chain kit and the cam lock tool(s), I'm wondering if I'm wasting money. What are the odds the valves aren't damaged? Should I just look for a salvage engine?
Appreciate your experience and thoughts
Clift
My first post, so forgive me if I placed it in the wrong area. Not afraid of a project but before I begin, would appreciate some advice from the experts out there.
Last week I bought a beautiful 2008 MCS with 63K miles from the original owner.
According to the owner, she drove it to work without any issues. At the end of the day it would not start (but would turn over/crank) Towed it to a local non Mini garage and was told it was timing issue. Mechanics removed the valve cover and saw the chain had not broken but the plastic from the top support was missing (chunks visible near the crank). Local garage would not attempt a repair, out of warranty and wanting to get another vehicle she offered it to me at a very reasonable price.
I attempted a compression check but learned my fittings won't work on the Mini. Guessing that's another special tool for the Mini. So before I order a timing chain kit and the cam lock tool(s), I'm wondering if I'm wasting money. What are the odds the valves aren't damaged? Should I just look for a salvage engine?
Appreciate your experience and thoughts
Clift
If the timing was so far out that it would not start.. There is a good chance IMHO that you lost compression and damaged something.
I'd pull the head. No sense in installing a timing chain cassette with possible valve damage..
I'd do that before I made a further diagnosis.
Perhaps borrow an inspection boroscope?
#3
Even tho the car is out of warranty, it's possible the timing chain / tensioner might still be covered. If it was replaced earlier, the replacement should be guaranteed for 2 years. You might want to call the closest dealer and work with them. If nothing else, get the maintenance history --- there are a couple other "known problems" with the 2nd gen Minis.
#4
#5
Although failing timing chains/assemblies are not unusual in MINIs, there are few instances of their failure destroying the engine. I would guess if it had jumped timing and internals started colliding with each other, the previous owner might have noticed something more than it running normal when she parked it.
Good luck!
Good luck!
#6
I recently had mine replaced as well. Dealer charged 2.4k, I had valve damage, but ive heard rumors the other day which actually informed me there might be a recall or something. If you like id pay and see what happens or wait till then to see where it goes.
http://www.motoringfile.com/section/recallscampaigns/
http://www.motoringfile.com/section/recallscampaigns/
Last edited by micromini234; 07-30-2013 at 09:59 AM.
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