Stock Problems/Issues Discussions related to warranty related issues and repairs, or other problems with the OEM parts and software for MINI Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

p0130 can't clear

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 01-02-2014, 11:22 AM
jerryt's Avatar
jerryt
jerryt is offline
Neutral
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
p0130 can't clear

Help...new to the mini. i have an 02 cooper that i just purchased a month ago from a private seller.
The seller had just replaced the upstream o2 sensor due to the p0130 code(bosh sensor). The ck engine light came on for me and the code was p0130. i checked with my scanner and the sensor was no longer active not swicthing at all and staying in open loop condition. i replaced with same sensor cleared code and saw it was active but not going closed and the light was triggered again.
things done:1) replaced sensor. light came on before 10 miles.
2) cleaned throttle body was filthy and sticky. this cleared code the longest about 30 miles.
and went into closed loop condition.
3) checked fuel rail pressure 40psi.
4) checked injectors w/stethescope appear to be working.
5) put in non ethenol gas and injector and valve cleaner.
sensor still appears to be working voltage switching and going closed loop then open drive etc.
i can clear code but comes back on in a matter of 10-20miles.
can't figure it out.
 

Last edited by jerryt; 01-02-2014 at 11:26 AM. Reason: forgot item
  #2  
Old 01-03-2014, 03:16 PM
mrbean's Avatar
mrbean
mrbean is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 784
Received 168 Likes on 128 Posts
Make sure the O2 sensor heater circuit is getting voltage.
What are your fuel trim values?
 
  #3  
Old 01-03-2014, 03:30 PM
ZippyNH's Avatar
ZippyNH
ZippyNH is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 12,605
Likes: 0
Received 36 Likes on 36 Posts
A few folks have found non-oem replacement's are troublesome....
Wonder if the sensor is junk....
 
  #4  
Old 01-04-2014, 04:13 AM
RA082324's Avatar
RA082324
RA082324 is offline
Banned
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i hate to say it, but you should get the NTK brand replacement. it can be found on amazon for ~$90.

i just had the same issue, however, i have the NTK replacement. it ended up being that my connections were just a bit finnicky.

after unplugging and replugging the electrical end of the sensor a couple times to make sure it was proper, i cleared the code and the light remained off.

i forget the part number for the NTK but if you find the other thread, it should be there.

a lot of people have trouble with the upstream sensor if its not NTK. i suggest if your downstream has never been replaced, move your new bosch to the downstream, and put the NTK in the upstream.

if no part number, search amazon "mini cooper o2 sensor ntk".
 
  #5  
Old 01-04-2014, 09:47 AM
jerryt's Avatar
jerryt
jerryt is offline
Neutral
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thanks all

now i forgot already the name of the first reply..but:
@ 188degrees closed loop and 2235 rpm stft is -11.7% ltft is 3.1%
@ idle same temp stft is 0.0% ltft is 7.3% this was ol-drive condition.

i am reading more about using non universal o2 sensors... i just dont want to believe it. can they really be that finicky.

thanks again if these # make you think something else let me know.
 
  #6  
Old 01-04-2014, 10:28 AM
ZippyNH's Avatar
ZippyNH
ZippyNH is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 12,605
Likes: 0
Received 36 Likes on 36 Posts
Yes the cars computer can be that picky....tiny varibles like the length of wire attached to sensor or the quality of the clip...don't even think of the old style solder and shrink-wrap type where you reuse the old clip (hopefully folks that try one reuse the old sensors clip, preserving the wiring on the car side for the next sensor...they will be buying one in weeks..)..
Just getting a speck of anti-seize from the treads on the end of the sensor can destroy one...
Do yourself a favor.... Buy a new one...preferably two (when one goes...the other is usually weeks away)....as mentioned...you could try swapping the pre-cat and post-cat sensor...might work...might not...
Good luck!
 
  #7  
Old 01-04-2014, 09:25 PM
jerryt's Avatar
jerryt
jerryt is offline
Neutral
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thanks all

thank Zippy
i am going to order up a new one and put the bosch downstream as mentioned. hopefully be done with it. i can find no other explanation.
jerryt
 
  #8  
Old 01-13-2014, 01:40 PM
jerryt's Avatar
jerryt
jerryt is offline
Neutral
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by jown.iv
i hate to say it, but you should get the NTK brand replacement. it can be found on amazon for ~$90.

i just had the same issue, however, i have the NTK replacement. it ended up being that my connections were just a bit finnicky.

after unplugging and replugging the electrical end of the sensor a couple times to make sure it was proper, i cleared the code and the light remained off.

i forget the part number for the NTK but if you find the other thread, it should be there.

a lot of people have trouble with the upstream sensor if its not NTK. i suggest if your downstream has never been replaced, move your new bosch to the downstream, and put the NTK in the upstream.

if no part number, search amazon "mini cooper o2 sensor ntk".
you called it ntk o2 sensor. installed it saturday 150 miles noticible improvement and no ck engine light.
thanks jerryt
 
  #9  
Old 01-13-2014, 04:15 PM
ACallahan's Avatar
ACallahan
ACallahan is offline
5th Gear
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,046
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Had that code and turned out to be the wires of the o2 sensor leaning against the exhaust heat shield. I bent the shield out of the way and code was history. I realize it may not be such an easy fix for everyone but I was really glad it was such a stupid easy fix.
 
  #10  
Old 01-13-2014, 06:38 PM
Da_Ghost's Avatar
Da_Ghost
Da_Ghost is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Québec, Canada
Posts: 880
Likes: 0
Received 56 Likes on 44 Posts
Originally Posted by ACallahan
Had that code and turned out to be the wires of the o2 sensor leaning against the exhaust heat shield. I bent the shield out of the way and code was history. I realize it may not be such an easy fix for everyone but I was really glad it was such a stupid easy fix.
Were the wires damaged? Otherwise that's a strange problem.
 
  #11  
Old 01-17-2014, 08:39 PM
gpskipton's Avatar
gpskipton
gpskipton is offline
3rd Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
fyi... I had the same issue with the bosch. My mechanic did lots of tests and he thinks that the Bosch would not warm up fast enough to satisfy the mini computer. He had a used mini sensor that fixed it up.
 
  #12  
Old 01-18-2014, 11:30 AM
ACallahan's Avatar
ACallahan
ACallahan is offline
5th Gear
iTrader: (6)
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,046
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Da_Ghost
Were the wires damaged? Otherwise that's a strange problem.
No and it has protective sheath on it but it leaves the wires an inch or so away from the sensor and that is where heat shield was touching
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
navybsn
General MINI Talk
4
10-05-2018 04:42 PM
OutMotoring
Vendor Announcements
118
03-03-2017 06:29 AM
navybsn
Stock Problems/Issues
4
10-04-2015 03:27 PM
dutchhome
Stock Problems/Issues
15
09-30-2015 07:17 AM
rt808
1st Gear
6
09-25-2015 01:59 PM



Quick Reply: p0130 can't clear



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:01 AM.