Wipers turn on when I turn ignition on!
#1
Wipers turn on when I turn ignition on!
What the H?
Every time I start the car, the wipers run through a cycle, then turn off. Almost always it's both front and rear, sometimes just the back.
I did some research and seems the BCM could be bad or there's another relay wired into the wiper circuit, that could be causing the problem. I read that some have had their wipers turn on and are unable to turn them off.
Can anyone agreed some light on this?
Every time I start the car, the wipers run through a cycle, then turn off. Almost always it's both front and rear, sometimes just the back.
I did some research and seems the BCM could be bad or there's another relay wired into the wiper circuit, that could be causing the problem. I read that some have had their wipers turn on and are unable to turn them off.
Can anyone agreed some light on this?
#3
You might find a wiring diagram on RealOEM.com.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do
There will be some suggestions that it could be battery related. When funny things start happening electrical it often points to the battery nearing it's end. the OBC is very sensitive and it doesn't take but a little weakness for it to start causing strange things to happen and there is nothing common among symptoms. The frustrating thing is that occasionally the battery is reported to check out pretty much OK.
On the other hand, my knuckle often touches the wiper lever unbeknownst to me when I put the key in the ignition and the wipers obey my knuckles command when I turn the key.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/select.do
There will be some suggestions that it could be battery related. When funny things start happening electrical it often points to the battery nearing it's end. the OBC is very sensitive and it doesn't take but a little weakness for it to start causing strange things to happen and there is nothing common among symptoms. The frustrating thing is that occasionally the battery is reported to check out pretty much OK.
On the other hand, my knuckle often touches the wiper lever unbeknownst to me when I put the key in the ignition and the wipers obey my knuckles command when I turn the key.
#5
Rough estimate - how many years and how many miles on the current battery? If you've got in the neighborhood of say 60 to 90K miles and the long side of 4 or more years it well could be. It would be worth your time to stop by an Auto Zone or other dealer of that ilk and have them check the battery static and under load and see what it says. If needs be they can swap it out while you wait and have you on your way in no time. All they will charge you for is the battery and disposal fee.
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#9
good guess there ... do you have rain sensing??? (I never did so I'd never think of this)
if I suspected a weak battery issue (and I HAVE seen MINIs do weird things with a weak battery) I'd get a know good battery, sit it in the boot and add it to the circuit with a set of jumper cables then try some start stops.
If the 'on at start' persists it is not from a weak battery. If it goes away . . . .
I'm not saying to drive around like this .. just eliminate the idea of a weak battery and the big draw at startup . . you could even use a jumper pak . . .
if I suspected a weak battery issue (and I HAVE seen MINIs do weird things with a weak battery) I'd get a know good battery, sit it in the boot and add it to the circuit with a set of jumper cables then try some start stops.
If the 'on at start' persists it is not from a weak battery. If it goes away . . . .
I'm not saying to drive around like this .. just eliminate the idea of a weak battery and the big draw at startup . . you could even use a jumper pak . . .
#10
When I start the car it runs the wipers. All the levers are in off position. Now, the wipers turn on as I am driving - randomly. Sometimes just the back wiper, sometimes both wipers.
My AC was on and I hit the switch to roll my window down, the AC fan turns off and the lights on the control console dim and turn off.
I'm hoping it's just a battery. About a month ago my power steering went out. Before that, my passenger door lock doesn't pop up and open the door.
Geez, what gives?
My AC was on and I hit the switch to roll my window down, the AC fan turns off and the lights on the control console dim and turn off.
I'm hoping it's just a battery. About a month ago my power steering went out. Before that, my passenger door lock doesn't pop up and open the door.
Geez, what gives?
#11
When I start the car it runs the wipers. All the levers are in off position. Now, the wipers turn on as I am driving - randomly. Sometimes just the back wiper, sometimes both wipers.
My AC was on and I hit the switch to roll my window down, the AC fan turns off and the lights on the control console dim and turn off.
I'm hoping it's just a battery. About a month ago my power steering went out. Before that, my passenger door lock doesn't pop up and open the door.
Geez, what gives?
My AC was on and I hit the switch to roll my window down, the AC fan turns off and the lights on the control console dim and turn off.
I'm hoping it's just a battery. About a month ago my power steering went out. Before that, my passenger door lock doesn't pop up and open the door.
Geez, what gives?
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When I start the car it runs the wipers. All the levers are in off position. Now, the wipers turn on as I am driving - randomly. Sometimes just the back wiper, sometimes both wipers.
My AC was on and I hit the switch to roll my window down, the AC fan turns off and the lights on the control console dim and turn off.
I'm hoping it's just a battery. About a month ago my power steering went out. Before that, my passenger door lock doesn't pop up and open the door.
Geez, what gives?
My AC was on and I hit the switch to roll my window down, the AC fan turns off and the lights on the control console dim and turn off.
I'm hoping it's just a battery. About a month ago my power steering went out. Before that, my passenger door lock doesn't pop up and open the door.
Geez, what gives?
Power steering pump is a very known issue on these cars and the door lock might just be a case of the bowden cable stretching or popping out from use over time
#13
Well, I replaced the battery with a new one, still got the same problems.
Wipers stay on.
Heater controls do not work.
Radio turns off and on intermittently.
BCM?
Any issues with buying a used one online? Other than the fact it might not work?
Wipers stay on.
Heater controls do not work.
Radio turns off and on intermittently.
BCM?
Any issues with buying a used one online? Other than the fact it might not work?
Last edited by Gigantor; 02-01-2014 at 10:26 AM.
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#19
The engine ground strap is on the passenger side of the engine, below and to the right of the upper engine mount as you are looking into the engine compartment. I check the security of that and the battery grounding strap periodically for security. Many things are written about MINI quirks if either strap loosens.
#20
What the H?
Every time I start the car, the wipers run through a cycle, then turn off. Almost always it's both front and rear, sometimes just the back.
I did some research and seems the BCM could be bad or there's another relay wired into the wiper circuit, that could be causing the problem. I read that some have had their wipers turn on and are unable to turn them off.
Can anyone agreed some light on this?
Every time I start the car, the wipers run through a cycle, then turn off. Almost always it's both front and rear, sometimes just the back.
I did some research and seems the BCM could be bad or there's another relay wired into the wiper circuit, that could be causing the problem. I read that some have had their wipers turn on and are unable to turn them off.
Can anyone agreed some light on this?
#21
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it's the ignition switch in the steering column, it's not feeding 12v rail to the stereo and to part of the bcm which causes it to spaz out.
buy a new one or take it apart and clean the connectors that fixed mine.
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