Mini has done it again! GRRR Window issues.
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Mini has done it again! GRRR Window issues.
03 r53
drivers window it stuck in the full upright position. does not move when door is opened or closed.
ive been reading posts with such being off track and just stuck. and some about grease in the motor itself.
im going to tare into it and try to figure it out :(
any suggestions or help is appreciated.
drivers window it stuck in the full upright position. does not move when door is opened or closed.
ive been reading posts with such being off track and just stuck. and some about grease in the motor itself.
im going to tare into it and try to figure it out :(
any suggestions or help is appreciated.
#2
Yes Give it a good whack just above the speaker ( fonzy method) while holding down on the window switch and see if starts working again,this is where the motor is located, some people were able to get the motor working again by opening the motor and cleaning the brushes I don't know how to do that so I just changed the whole thing, motor and regulator . Since you window is up and if you decide to do the job you'll have to take out the regulator too, you have to try and lower that window about half way otherwise you'll have to cut the regulator cables and that means that you'll have to buy a new one, if you can not lower the window it will be a pain to loosen the pegs that hold the window to the frame and regulator, you will need a special tool Outmotoring has it for less than 30.00. You'll need to take the chrome trim off to reach the pegs, that's if the window is all the way up
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...eplacement.htm
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...eplacement.htm
Last edited by minibx; 06-12-2014 at 01:35 PM.
#3
I have done several of the Mini window regulators and posted a page with pictures and instructions for replacing it. If you replace the window regulator don't buy the cheap ones. I replaced the same window regulator three times because of cheap parts.... spend a little more money and get a good one.
I hope these instructions help http://www.minneapolis-moline.com/miniwindow.html
Good luck,
Tony T
I hope these instructions help http://www.minneapolis-moline.com/miniwindow.html
Good luck,
Tony T
#4
Since you window is up and if you decide to do the job you'll have to take out the regulator too, you have to try and lower that window about half way otherwise you'll have to cut the regulator cables and that means that you'll have to buy a new one, if you can not lower the window it will be a pain to loosen the pegs that hold the window to the frame and regulator, you will need a special tool Outmotoring has it for less than 30.00. You'll need to take the chrome trim off to reach the pegs, that's if the window is all the way up
Good luck,
Tony T
#5
Sometimes you can remove the outside window trim with the window up and use a flat blade screwdriver to remove the "cog like" retainers for the window. Place the flat part of the blade on the cog and bump it with your hand a few times counter clockwise. I was able to loosen mine with the window up using this technique. I then just used the screwdriver to spin the retainer out so I could remove the window. Good luck, Tony T
#6
I'm with you... the regulator is relatively cheap so I don't think I would ever change just the motor.
Tony T
#7
Yeah the tool paid for itself because you can also use it on an R56 as well as the R53 50 etc.. Much much easier. I just saw your guide , great job you even showed those white clips holding the cables, great work, the tool was about 26 bucks from Outmotoring is worth it.
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Yes Give it a good whack just above the speaker ( fonzy method) while holding down on the window switch and see if starts working again,this is where the motor is located, some people were able to get the motor working again by opening the motor and cleaning the brushes I don't know how to do that so I just changed the whole thing, motor and regulator . Since you window is up and if you decide to do the job you'll have to take out the regulator too, you have to try and lower that window about half way otherwise you'll have to cut the regulator cables and that means that you'll have to buy a new one, if you can not lower the window it will be a pain to loosen the pegs that hold the window to the frame and regulator, you will need a special tool Outmotoring has it for less than 30.00. You'll need to take the chrome trim off to reach the pegs, that's if the window is all the way up
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...eplacement.htm
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarti...eplacement.htm
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I have done several of the Mini window regulators and posted a page with pictures and instructions for replacing it. If you replace the window regulator don't buy the cheap ones. I replaced the same window regulator three times because of cheap parts.... spend a little more money and get a good one.
I hope these instructions help http://www.minneapolis-moline.com/miniwindow.html
Good luck,
Tony T
I hope these instructions help http://www.minneapolis-moline.com/miniwindow.html
Good luck,
Tony T
#13
I ordered mine from ECSTuning.com, as advised above make sure that you order the correct side.... Do yourself a favor and get this tool, chances are you'll need it again http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...or_wrench.html
Here is motor for you year
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2003-C...ndow/ES184405/
Regulator front left
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2003-C...indow/ES94200/
Here is motor for you year
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2003-C...ndow/ES184405/
Regulator front left
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2003-C...indow/ES94200/
#14
I ordered mine from ECSTuning.com, as advised above make sure that you order the correct side.... Do yourself a favor and get this tool, chances are you'll need it again http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...or_wrench.html
Here is motor for you year
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2003-C...ndow/ES184405/
Regulator front left
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2003-C...indow/ES94200/
Here is motor for you year
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2003-C...ndow/ES184405/
Regulator front left
http://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2003-C...indow/ES94200/
I'm now still worried and know I'll have to replace at some point.
But a quick thought. The tool looks really similar to my ar barrel wrench. Any thoughts there?
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I'm not an expert by any means but I've work on a few :-) . It seems people like to dump their Mini when they've let a lot of little stuff pile up. Work through all that and you'll love your car.
I'm kind of new here but it's nice to have a place to get help when you need it.
Tony T
#17
Hang in there! Mini's are not that hard to work on and once you get all the little things fixed you'll know what you have. They are a blast to drive and get looks everywhere you go.
I'm not an expert by any means but I've work on a few :-) . It seems people like to dump their Mini when they've let a lot of little stuff pile up. Work through all that and you'll love your car.
I'm kind of new here but it's nice to have a place to get help when you need it.
Tony T
I'm not an expert by any means but I've work on a few :-) . It seems people like to dump their Mini when they've let a lot of little stuff pile up. Work through all that and you'll love your car.
I'm kind of new here but it's nice to have a place to get help when you need it.
Tony T
but ive only had it 3 months now not even 2K miles on it and have had tons of stuff quick. but yes after i get through most of it all should be good.
#18
My motor is dead. The Fonzi trick worked for a little bit but no longer. I have a motor and am trying to replace it. My window is in the fully up position.
I have the white sprockets loose. However the Bentley says you have to lower the window to remove the white sprockets. How do you lower the window when the motor is dead??? I can't seem to get the sprockets to clear the door panel with the window in the fully up position.
I don't have another regulator handy, only a motor, so I can't cut the cable.
I have the white sprockets loose. However the Bentley says you have to lower the window to remove the white sprockets. How do you lower the window when the motor is dead??? I can't seem to get the sprockets to clear the door panel with the window in the fully up position.
I don't have another regulator handy, only a motor, so I can't cut the cable.
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My motor is dead. The Fonzi trick worked for a little bit but no longer. I have a motor and am trying to replace it. My window is in the fully up position. I have the white sprockets loose. However the Bentley says you have to lower the window to remove the white sprockets. How do you lower the window when the motor is dead??? I can't seem to get the sprockets to clear the door panel with the window in the fully up position. I don't have another regulator handy, only a motor, so I can't cut the cable.
#20
Unfortunately as far as I know you will need a new regulator. There is no other way to lower the window if it is the up position, same thing happened with my window and I had to cut the regulator wires to lower mine. There may be a way of doing this but I had a new regulator with the motor so it was a no brainer. Good luck when taking the motor out note the position that the motor goes in because if it is backwards it will work the same accordingly.
I have read the stuff about noting the position of the motor. Isn't the padding on the motor a tell-tale sign of which way it goes--padding toward the inner door surface that the motor rests against? It seems like that logic should make it straightforward...
Last edited by WhoHasGotTheBlueS; 09-27-2014 at 03:13 PM. Reason: typos, as always
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Cool, be careful when detaching the cables from the motor good luck
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Well I am back, searching to see if someone describes how they did this. No luck finding anything so far.
Yeah, this is tricky. I centered the travelers on the left and right regulator slides. Then I oriented the cables the way they are in the parts diagram. Yeah, I'm making up the terminology as I go along. I don't know what the internals of the regulator mechanism are called!
Have to compress the springs on the two cables as they go to the capstan, and get the cables wrapped properly around the capstan and then get the capstan inserted into its seat. I need four strong hands! The only way I can envision it working is to have a couple of "fork jawed" clamps to keep the springs under compression while I wind the cables onto the capstan and drop it onto the seat...
Ideas? Links to threads my multiple searches may have missed?
Yeah, this is tricky. I centered the travelers on the left and right regulator slides. Then I oriented the cables the way they are in the parts diagram. Yeah, I'm making up the terminology as I go along. I don't know what the internals of the regulator mechanism are called!
Have to compress the springs on the two cables as they go to the capstan, and get the cables wrapped properly around the capstan and then get the capstan inserted into its seat. I need four strong hands! The only way I can envision it working is to have a couple of "fork jawed" clamps to keep the springs under compression while I wind the cables onto the capstan and drop it onto the seat...
Ideas? Links to threads my multiple searches may have missed?
Last edited by WhoHasGotTheBlueS; 09-28-2014 at 09:25 AM. Reason: added some detail