Oil light after engine heats up st idle
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Oil light after engine heats up st idle
I have a 08 mini r56 S that has 145k miles on it and recently after a oil change after the engine heated up the low oil pressure light came on at the tach position every time it reached idle rpms. I have had the car about 8 months as a weekend driver only, I've been going replacing things people say go out. So far I have changed the oil 3 times because it was sitting in a car lot, I've changed the fuel filter, rebuilt the turbo, changed the oil intake line for the turbo, flushed the radiator, and replaced the plugs and vacuume pump and the seals on the oil filter cooling housing just because my daughter is gonna be driving this car in a couple months. I've done a lot of reading and seems as that most people with this problem all have it with the r55 not sure what could be causing this was wondering if it is the filter I'm using or something missing in the filter reservoir here is a pic of the filter I'm using and where the filter contacts. I have changed the oil one more time since it started happening but same thing.
Last edited by aquamann; 02-01-2016 at 07:39 PM. Reason: Info
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Strange, but with 145,000 miles I can only recommend you run something like this or this. These engines run way too hot (214-226) for there own good and when you shut off the engine after a long trip the oil bakes itself into the oil channels. I used the EPR at 50,000 miles and trust me when I say you've never seen oil this black before, it looked like tar! You've gone 100,000 miles further than me so... Damn!
How much oil did you pour into your crankcase? Should be 4.75 quarts if you let it drain well.
How much oil did you pour into your crankcase? Should be 4.75 quarts if you let it drain well.
#7
aquamann, I don't really have an answer for you but I've been doing my oil changes without the issues you are experiencing since my Mini has been new. I recommend buying a genuine, Mini Filter and also using Mobil 1 0W-40 European Car Formula. The Mobil 1 oil you are using may not meet the specs below:
Mini states to use the following: Long-life rating LL-01 Approved Synthetic Oils for the US Market
- Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30
- Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40
- Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
- Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30
I don't know if this is your problem, but it is where I would start. I have 112k miles on my engine.
Mini states to use the following: Long-life rating LL-01 Approved Synthetic Oils for the US Market
- Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30
- Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40
- Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
- Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30
I don't know if this is your problem, but it is where I would start. I have 112k miles on my engine.
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aquamann, I don't really have an answer for you but I've been doing my oil changes without the issues you are experiencing since my Mini has been new. I recommend buying a genuine, Mini Filter and also using Mobil 1 0W-40 European Car Formula. The Mobil 1 oil you are using may not meet the specs below:
Mini states to use the following: Long-life rating LL-01 Approved Synthetic Oils for the US Market
- Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30
- Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40
- Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
- Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30
I don't know if this is your problem, but it is where I would start. I have 112k miles on my engine.
Mini states to use the following: Long-life rating LL-01 Approved Synthetic Oils for the US Market
- Castrol Syntec European Formula SAE 0W-30
- Mobil 1 SAE 0W-40
- Pennzoil Platinum European Formula Ultra SAE 5W-30
- Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W-30
I don't know if this is your problem, but it is where I would start. I have 112k miles on my engine.
#9
aquamann, the question I keep wondering is if you really have low oil pressure? Idiot lights aren't very reliable, and either the light comes on or it doesn't. It really is difficult to interpret. The lack of gauges is very frustrating.
I installed a Craven gauge combo with oil pressure and water temp. It's an expensive option. You might consider replacing the oil pressure sending unit, maybe it's bad.
I installed a Craven gauge combo with oil pressure and water temp. It's an expensive option. You might consider replacing the oil pressure sending unit, maybe it's bad.
#10
Have you checked for any codes, as Gregsmini said above the lack of gauges etc is annoying. I'm just throwing ***** against the wall but could the low pressure idiot light you are seeing also have an additional meaning? It just have all the codes pulled and check to see what is going on before going further. I know autozone, discount auto etc can pull most of our codes, you can buy a code reader from one of our great sponsors on here, or buy a Bluetooth device that plugs into your OBII Port and download DashCommand, it reads all codes, resets the codes and also has a lot of different gauges that our cars don't have but the computer can read. Just some options. Good Luck!
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Have you checked for any codes, as Gregsmini said above the lack of gauges etc is annoying. I'm just throwing ***** against the wall but could the low pressure idiot light you are seeing also have an additional meaning? It just have all the codes pulled and check to see what is going on before going further. I know autozone, discount auto etc can pull most of our codes, you can buy a code reader from one of our great sponsors on here, or buy a Bluetooth device that plugs into your OBII Port and download DashCommand, it reads all codes, resets the codes and also has a lot of different gauges that our cars don't have but the computer can read. Just some options. Good Luck!
#12
Some of the aftermarket lower grade Gen 2 MINI oil filter like to lint allot and clog the Vanos and other items. That's why I use Mann, Mahle or the genuine MINI filter, it does not lint as much. For the oil go with the LL-01 recommended above or the ones we have in our oil service kits, they are also LL-01 . The Porsche stock mobile 1 is also the same for MINI.
https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2008-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Maintenance/Engine/Oil_Service/
https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2008-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Engine/Filter/
Also I would check the oil pressure switch as it could have faulted or failed. Check the plug connection.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...replacing.html
https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2008-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Maintenance/Engine/Oil_Service/
https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2008-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Engine/Filter/
Also I would check the oil pressure switch as it could have faulted or failed. Check the plug connection.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...replacing.html
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You are welcome. Glad to help.
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Filters
Some of the aftermarket lower grade Gen 2 MINI oil filter like to lint allot and clog the Vanos and other items. That's why I use Mann, Mahle or the genuine MINI filter, it does not lint as much. For the oil go with the LL-01 recommended above or the ones we have in our oil service kits, they are also LL-01 . The Porsche stock mobile 1 is also the same for MINI.
https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2008-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Maintenance/Engine/Oil_Service/
https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2008-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Engine/Filter/
Also I would check the oil pressure switch as it could have faulted or failed. Check the plug connection.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...replacing.html
https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2008-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Maintenance/Engine/Oil_Service/
https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2008-Cooper-R56-S-Coupe-L4_1.6L_N14B16A/Engine/Filter/
Also I would check the oil pressure switch as it could have faulted or failed. Check the plug connection.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...replacing.html
#17
I would definitely try the things suggested and hope for the best. However, sadly, I suspect you do actually have low oil pressure, if the light behaves predictably under that scenario. Does the light go off when you rev the engine a little?
I agree that these cars run too hot. I would also add that they idle too low. I think these two things are not a good recipe for engine bearing longevity. I am working on a way to increase my idle speed right now. Even if you do have low oil pressure, I think you could get some more life out of your engine by doing any or all of the following:
1. Run a slightly thicker weight oil.
2. Increase your idle speed.
3. Make your car run cooler.
2 and 3 aren't so easy
I agree that these cars run too hot. I would also add that they idle too low. I think these two things are not a good recipe for engine bearing longevity. I am working on a way to increase my idle speed right now. Even if you do have low oil pressure, I think you could get some more life out of your engine by doing any or all of the following:
1. Run a slightly thicker weight oil.
2. Increase your idle speed.
3. Make your car run cooler.
2 and 3 aren't so easy
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I don't know, but I'm having my own issues. My car is making a rattling sound when idling hot. No oil light. I checked the oil last night (which is difficult, in my opinion, because of the spring wrapped around the dipstick). I think I was at the bottom of the safe zone. Now I'm at the top. My car idles way down in the mid to upper 600 rpm range. When I bump the idle to 900 the noise completely disappears. I'm working on rigging something up to hold the pedal down a little. I also plan to change the oil.
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