No Start - Battery Well full of Water
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No Start - Battery Well full of Water
Slightly dramatic - Went to start the mini after the Georgia flood/tornadoes this past weekend and I get nothing,.... no dash lights, no starter, just lock/unlock. Light bulb moment follows and I checked the battery.
NOTE to self - don't park Mini, or any other car, at the edge of the roof line when it rains. Water comes off the roof there with fire hydrant quantity and force. Lived here for 10 years think I would have figured it out by now.
Sure enough, whole well is Flooded. Long Story short, the 200 amp fuse inside the little box near the positive terminal flooded, shorted and blew.
Looked it up in REALOEM (61126922465) and, you guessed it, Mini doesn't sell just the fuse they want to sell the box asssembly with positive lead attached at the now fairly reasonable price of $113 from FCP EURO.
Bear in mind this fuse is not part of the BST device, that's in the battery positive cable itself. I apparently dodged that bullet, this didn't also blow.
Wellll, the fuse inside that box is clearly marked as a MEGA 200 amp from Littlefuse.
so I ended up getting a replacement from NAPA ($7.00). Balkamp product, part #BK 7821140
Amazon sells them too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Oreily does too: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...itemDetailTab_
Courtesy of Pelican Parts
So here's my little DIY.
WARNING - MAKE SURE the water level is lower than the terminals - if not get it that way before proceeding - Use Turkey baster or manual oil pump. ALSO, PUT on some EYE protection, That water is nasty stuff.
1. Pull NEGATIVE lead from battery FIRST. Ensure it cant touch battery terminal
2. Do same for positive lead.
3. Pull the screw and nut that lock down the battery clamp - 8mm for both
4. Pull battery. Put it on a smart charger to make sure its still good.
5. Get rest of water out
6. Open up the little box next to positive lead
7. Use 10mm socket to remove the three nuts inside.
8. Disconnect the large Positive leads from the inside of the box.
9. disconnect and remove the small cable on the side of the box.
10 Remove BOX by pulling straight up.
11. Dry everything with paper towels and hair dryer. NOTE: Be kind and clean the grease off your hands first. You'll thank yourself later when your spouse dries her hair and didn't notice you took her hairdryer into the garage.
12. Spray all the connections down with a electrical contact cleaner.
13. Reassemble, make sure you put Positive battery lead cover back on, & cross fingers everything still works.
My Car fired right up. Ended up with DSC and TPMS lights on. I'm presuming they will go out once TPMS resets itself. IIRC that takes a couple miles.
NOTE to self - don't park Mini, or any other car, at the edge of the roof line when it rains. Water comes off the roof there with fire hydrant quantity and force. Lived here for 10 years think I would have figured it out by now.
Sure enough, whole well is Flooded. Long Story short, the 200 amp fuse inside the little box near the positive terminal flooded, shorted and blew.
Looked it up in REALOEM (61126922465) and, you guessed it, Mini doesn't sell just the fuse they want to sell the box asssembly with positive lead attached at the now fairly reasonable price of $113 from FCP EURO.
Bear in mind this fuse is not part of the BST device, that's in the battery positive cable itself. I apparently dodged that bullet, this didn't also blow.
Wellll, the fuse inside that box is clearly marked as a MEGA 200 amp from Littlefuse.
so I ended up getting a replacement from NAPA ($7.00). Balkamp product, part #BK 7821140
Amazon sells them too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Oreily does too: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...itemDetailTab_
Courtesy of Pelican Parts
So here's my little DIY.
WARNING - MAKE SURE the water level is lower than the terminals - if not get it that way before proceeding - Use Turkey baster or manual oil pump. ALSO, PUT on some EYE protection, That water is nasty stuff.
1. Pull NEGATIVE lead from battery FIRST. Ensure it cant touch battery terminal
2. Do same for positive lead.
3. Pull the screw and nut that lock down the battery clamp - 8mm for both
4. Pull battery. Put it on a smart charger to make sure its still good.
5. Get rest of water out
6. Open up the little box next to positive lead
7. Use 10mm socket to remove the three nuts inside.
8. Disconnect the large Positive leads from the inside of the box.
9. disconnect and remove the small cable on the side of the box.
10 Remove BOX by pulling straight up.
11. Dry everything with paper towels and hair dryer. NOTE: Be kind and clean the grease off your hands first. You'll thank yourself later when your spouse dries her hair and didn't notice you took her hairdryer into the garage.
12. Spray all the connections down with a electrical contact cleaner.
13. Reassemble, make sure you put Positive battery lead cover back on, & cross fingers everything still works.
My Car fired right up. Ended up with DSC and TPMS lights on. I'm presuming they will go out once TPMS resets itself. IIRC that takes a couple miles.
Last edited by BruceJ; 01-25-2017 at 04:40 PM.
#2
Glad you got your car working again.
To reduce the chance of flood issues, check your sunroof drains to make sure they are connected. They often come loose and drain into the car. The one that causes the most problems is the passenger side front drain. If loose, the water usually gets into the Body Control Module for the car and all kinds of things go wrong. It's also expensive if it shorts out and you need to buy a new one. Most people use a zip tie or hose clamp to secure the drain tubes as they are just slipped on from the factory.
For the battery well flood issue, check the rear sunroof drains, the third brake light seal, and the hatch handle seal as the water usually comes through one of these areas.
To reduce the chance of flood issues, check your sunroof drains to make sure they are connected. They often come loose and drain into the car. The one that causes the most problems is the passenger side front drain. If loose, the water usually gets into the Body Control Module for the car and all kinds of things go wrong. It's also expensive if it shorts out and you need to buy a new one. Most people use a zip tie or hose clamp to secure the drain tubes as they are just slipped on from the factory.
For the battery well flood issue, check the rear sunroof drains, the third brake light seal, and the hatch handle seal as the water usually comes through one of these areas.
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Slightly dramatic - Went to start the mini after the Georgia flood/tornadoes this past weekend and I get nothing,.... no dash lights, no starter, just lock/unlock. Light bulb moment follows and I checked the battery.
NOTE to self - don't park Mini, or any other car, at the edge of the roof line when it rains. Water comes off the roof there with fire hydrant quantity and force. Lived here for 10 years think I would have figured it out by now.
Sure enough, whole well is Flooded. Long Story short, the 200 amp fuse inside the little box near the positive terminal flooded, shorted and blew.
Looked it up in REALOEM (61126922465) and, you guessed it, Mini doesn't sell just the fuse they want to sell the box asssembly with positive lead attached at the now fairly reasonable price of $113 from FCP EURO.
Bear in mind this fuse is not part of the BST device, that's in the battery positive cable itself. I apparently dodged that bullet, this didn't also blow.
Wellll, the fuse inside that box is clearly marked as a MEGA 200 amp from Littlefuse.
so I ended up getting a replacement from NAPA ($7.00). Balkamp product, part #BK 7821140
Amazon sells them too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Oreily does too: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...itemDetailTab_
Courtesy of Pelican Parts
So here's my little DIY.
WARNING - MAKE SURE the water level is lower than the terminals - if not get it that way before proceeding - Use Turkey baster or manual oil pump. ALSO, PUT on some EYE protection, That water is nasty stuff.
1. Pull NEGATIVE lead from battery FIRST. Ensure it cant touch battery terminal
2. Do same for positive lead.
3. Pull the screw and nut that lock down the battery clamp - 8mm for both
4. Pull battery. Put it on a smart charger to make sure its still good.
5. Get rest of water out
6. Open up the little box next to positive lead
7. Use 10mm socket to remove the three nuts inside.
8. Disconnect the large Positive leads from the inside of the box.
9. disconnect and remove the small cable on the side of the box.
10 Remove BOX by pulling straight up.
11. Dry everything with paper towels and hair dryer. NOTE: Be kind and clean the grease off your hands first. You'll thank yourself later when your spouse dries her hair and didn't notice you took her hairdryer into the garage.
12. Spray all the connections down with a electrical contact cleaner.
13. Reassemble, make sure you put Positive battery lead cover back on, & cross fingers everything still works.
My Car fired right up. Ended up with DSC and TPMS lights on. I'm presuming they will go out once TPMS resets itself. IIRC that takes a couple miles.
NOTE to self - don't park Mini, or any other car, at the edge of the roof line when it rains. Water comes off the roof there with fire hydrant quantity and force. Lived here for 10 years think I would have figured it out by now.
Sure enough, whole well is Flooded. Long Story short, the 200 amp fuse inside the little box near the positive terminal flooded, shorted and blew.
Looked it up in REALOEM (61126922465) and, you guessed it, Mini doesn't sell just the fuse they want to sell the box asssembly with positive lead attached at the now fairly reasonable price of $113 from FCP EURO.
Bear in mind this fuse is not part of the BST device, that's in the battery positive cable itself. I apparently dodged that bullet, this didn't also blow.
Wellll, the fuse inside that box is clearly marked as a MEGA 200 amp from Littlefuse.
so I ended up getting a replacement from NAPA ($7.00). Balkamp product, part #BK 7821140
Amazon sells them too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Oreily does too: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...itemDetailTab_
Courtesy of Pelican Parts
So here's my little DIY.
WARNING - MAKE SURE the water level is lower than the terminals - if not get it that way before proceeding - Use Turkey baster or manual oil pump. ALSO, PUT on some EYE protection, That water is nasty stuff.
1. Pull NEGATIVE lead from battery FIRST. Ensure it cant touch battery terminal
2. Do same for positive lead.
3. Pull the screw and nut that lock down the battery clamp - 8mm for both
4. Pull battery. Put it on a smart charger to make sure its still good.
5. Get rest of water out
6. Open up the little box next to positive lead
7. Use 10mm socket to remove the three nuts inside.
8. Disconnect the large Positive leads from the inside of the box.
9. disconnect and remove the small cable on the side of the box.
10 Remove BOX by pulling straight up.
11. Dry everything with paper towels and hair dryer. NOTE: Be kind and clean the grease off your hands first. You'll thank yourself later when your spouse dries her hair and didn't notice you took her hairdryer into the garage.
12. Spray all the connections down with a electrical contact cleaner.
13. Reassemble, make sure you put Positive battery lead cover back on, & cross fingers everything still works.
My Car fired right up. Ended up with DSC and TPMS lights on. I'm presuming they will go out once TPMS resets itself. IIRC that takes a couple miles.
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Hello Bruce,
I had the same issue with the battery compartment flooding. I need to get a whole new box and cable like the image you posted. you mentioned $113 at FCP EURO. i searched but could not find the part. would you know the name of the part? I searched "Fuse module with B+ wire but nothing was found. Do you know if the part goes by another name? thanks!
I had the same issue with the battery compartment flooding. I need to get a whole new box and cable like the image you posted. you mentioned $113 at FCP EURO. i searched but could not find the part. would you know the name of the part? I searched "Fuse module with B+ wire but nothing was found. Do you know if the part goes by another name? thanks!
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