Brown Coolant?
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Brown Coolant?
I noticed that the engine coolant in my car had turned a nasty brown color. When I had my car in for an oil change, I asked them to check it out. They came back and said there was a service bulletin and they had flushed out the cooling system and replaced the coolant. I asked what caused it to change and the Service Advisor had no idea. All he knew was what was in the service bulletin. I know many early cars had problems with the plastic coolant tank, but mine was fine and was not replaced.
Does anyone know anything about this? I'd like to know what happened and if I should be worried about my cooling system.
Thanks.
Does anyone know anything about this? I'd like to know what happened and if I should be worried about my cooling system.
Thanks.
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Mine's brown too. I thought this was strange, until I found out most other 2003 Coopers also have brown coolant. It's pretty common. I took my car for the 23,000 mile servicing (Inspection #1), and while they are supposed to replace the fluids--I thought there was a flushing too--- my coolant is STILL brown.
Richard
Richard
Originally Posted by scotteast
I noticed that the engine coolant in my car had turned a nasty brown color. When I had my car in for an oil change, I asked them to check it out. They came back and said there was a service bulletin and they had flushed out the cooling system and replaced the coolant. I asked what caused it to change and the Service Advisor had no idea. All he knew was what was in the service bulletin. I know many early cars had problems with the plastic coolant tank, but mine was fine and was not replaced.
Does anyone know anything about this? I'd like to know what happened and if I should be worried about my cooling system.
Thanks.
Does anyone know anything about this? I'd like to know what happened and if I should be worried about my cooling system.
Thanks.
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Originally Posted by OctaneGuy
Mine's brown too. I thought this was strange, until I found out most other 2003 Coopers also have brown coolant. It's pretty common. I took my car for the 23,000 mile servicing (Inspection #1), and while they are supposed to replace the fluids--I thought there was a flushing too--- my coolant is STILL brown.
Richard
Richard
It's supposed to be flushed every 4 years.
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Mine turned brown within a couple of thousand miles from the factory. My dealer flushed it for me no questions asked.
As I recall, it may have something to do with the casting process when the engine block was built. I'm not sure if it was the sand leftover from the casting process, or if there was any internal rusting...... Better to be on the safe side, so I asked my dealer to flush it.
Edited to add: Oh, forgot to say, my coolant bottle had oily residue floating in it the first time I checked my coolant... At about 400 miles or so.
As I recall, it may have something to do with the casting process when the engine block was built. I'm not sure if it was the sand leftover from the casting process, or if there was any internal rusting...... Better to be on the safe side, so I asked my dealer to flush it.
Edited to add: Oh, forgot to say, my coolant bottle had oily residue floating in it the first time I checked my coolant... At about 400 miles or so.
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My coolant's been brown forever (...another '03) and I did check this out at the dealer. The coolant was chemically tested and showed to be fine except that it was.......well, brown. If there is an actual service bulletin on this that calls for a system flush I'd love to know about it.
From everything I've ever heard, I think you're fine w/brown coolant....chemically speaking. Not to worry. Can't hurt to notify your dealer and asked surprised, though....it is a weird phenomenon, and they just might fugure this mystery out one of these days if people continue to question it.
From everything I've ever heard, I think you're fine w/brown coolant....chemically speaking. Not to worry. Can't hurt to notify your dealer and asked surprised, though....it is a weird phenomenon, and they just might fugure this mystery out one of these days if people continue to question it.
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Thanks! Is that a scheduled service? Did you just go in there and tell them that or did you do it at the same time as another service?
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Originally Posted by scotteast
My coolant flush was performed under warranty under service measure 17 201 03, so I would think anyone with brown coolant should be able to get it replaced at no charge.
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Every car I have ever owned had brown coolant when I looked at it. I think it is a reaction between the ethylene glycol and the metal in the block. I'm very surprised if they replaced it, since if it passed a hygrometer test for coldness protection, the color is meaningless. Its like having a patient come in with green blood. No one would expect that changing the blood would solve the cause of it turning green! Sometimes the dealers just go along with what the customer wants, even if it makes no sense.
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I spent part of this weekend at an auto repair shop owned by a MC owner. He had a group of DCMM people out for a "Tech Day". One of the questions that came up was brown coolant. He said in the 03 and earlier the coloration they put in the coolant turns brown and it is nothing to worry about as long as the level is OK.
The new coolant they are using is not supposed to do this.
The new coolant they are using is not supposed to do this.
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Remember that the Mini has an iron block - all those water passages are iron. Water + iron = rust = brown. No mystery there. Most coolants are considered "permanent" now - not like when we had to change them every year. They turn brown after a while. No harm done. Brown water transfers heat and does not freeze the same as green or blue water. Unless you are the Tidy Bowl Man, it should be no problem.
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I’m with MINI USA. For anyone who is experiencing "brown water syndrome", please know that discolored coolants will in no way compromise the cooling or anti-freeze properties, nor will the performance of your car be affected. We can lend a hand if you feel you want to make arrangements with your MINI dealership to flush and refill the system. You can let us know at 866.ASK MINI. And, of course, you can call us with any other concerns you may have. We’re happy to help.
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For a second I had to look to see the date of the initial post because I thought I was having a 2002 flashback. This was a big problem with the early 2002’s, but not all. I do not believe anyone ever stated what the exact problem or cause was. As MINIDivision says, there have never any problems caused by this and I know many MINIs that have had this problem.
#23
Could you please advise why the coolant turns brown. In my 62 years and probably 30 vehicles, never had this happen.
Originally Posted by MINIDivision
I’m with MINI USA. For anyone who is experiencing "brown water syndrome", please know that discolored coolants will in no way compromise the cooling or anti-freeze properties, nor will the performance of your car be affected. We can lend a hand if you feel you want to make arrangements with your MINI dealership to flush and refill the system. You can let us know at 866.ASK MINI. And, of course, you can call us with any other concerns you may have. We’re happy to help.
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Originally Posted by rcase13
But what about the mysterious way the coolant disappears. I have had to refill mine twice in 18000 miles. No leaks anywhere... It's like it's evaporating.