Gas leak in cold weather
#1
Gas leak in cold weather
Ok internet, help me out.
I have a gas leak over my first injector (far left if facing the engine bay). This happened last year when I first bought the car and drove it across the country in the dead of winter (20 degrees) driving for 8 hours per day. I didn't notice anything while on the highway, but as soon as I would pull up to a stop light I could smell a strong gas smell while inside the cabin (from heater vents). The smell would go away when driving.. Its a strong odor.
When I popped the hood, I could see gas on my injector. I took it to Baron MINI (KC) and they couldn't reproduce it, but said my oil was old and smelled like gas a little, so they gave me the $100 oil change and sent me on my way. I continued to drive in cold weather and never noticed the problem again. Fast forward one year, and I had the same issue.
This time I popped the hood as soon as I got in my garage and saw something dripping on my injector. I had been looking in the wrong place, I assumed it was the injector itself.
Attached are two photos. I did some quick searching, but found no diagrams. For the sake of time can you guys help me ID this problem while I search as well? This is a safety issue, so I want to figure this out ASAP. I'm going to see if my mechanic has time to take a look, but he's not a MINI guy.. So if I could point him in the right direction that would be helpful.
The gas looks like its coming from the black braided hose going under the intercooler.
I have a gas leak over my first injector (far left if facing the engine bay). This happened last year when I first bought the car and drove it across the country in the dead of winter (20 degrees) driving for 8 hours per day. I didn't notice anything while on the highway, but as soon as I would pull up to a stop light I could smell a strong gas smell while inside the cabin (from heater vents). The smell would go away when driving.. Its a strong odor.
When I popped the hood, I could see gas on my injector. I took it to Baron MINI (KC) and they couldn't reproduce it, but said my oil was old and smelled like gas a little, so they gave me the $100 oil change and sent me on my way. I continued to drive in cold weather and never noticed the problem again. Fast forward one year, and I had the same issue.
This time I popped the hood as soon as I got in my garage and saw something dripping on my injector. I had been looking in the wrong place, I assumed it was the injector itself.
Attached are two photos. I did some quick searching, but found no diagrams. For the sake of time can you guys help me ID this problem while I search as well? This is a safety issue, so I want to figure this out ASAP. I'm going to see if my mechanic has time to take a look, but he's not a MINI guy.. So if I could point him in the right direction that would be helpful.
The gas looks like its coming from the black braided hose going under the intercooler.
Last edited by burley; 11-09-2017 at 03:53 PM.
#2
Basic research reveals its the fuel line () that feeds the fuel rail. Ask a dumb question, get a dumb answer.
I more or less didn't know what was between the hose and the injectors since I've never explored under the intercooler before. I have a parts R50, hopefully the fuel bits are the same. Maybe something is contracting in the cold, causing a leak?
I more or less didn't know what was between the hose and the injectors since I've never explored under the intercooler before. I have a parts R50, hopefully the fuel bits are the same. Maybe something is contracting in the cold, causing a leak?
Last edited by burley; 11-09-2017 at 06:04 PM.
#3
Here's a procedure for replacing the fuel pressure regulator, which seems like it, or a close relative, might be the problem. Sine I have a parts car, I'll just replace the entire section and see if its better. I hope the parts are interchangeable.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...regulator.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...regulator.html
#4
Anyone know if the o-rings on the injectors can be found at an autoparts store or do I need the dealership version? I'm about to take her on a test drive and it dawned on me that the leak could be the injector spraying fuel upward..
Crickets here.. Echo!
Crickets here.. Echo!
Last edited by burley; 11-11-2017 at 05:13 AM.
#6
I suspect that your flexible fuel line is likely fine. I would check the compression quick release joint at the fuel rail, but this evidence may have been lost as you swapped in the stuff from your parts R50. The other possibility is the injector o-rings as you're suspecting. I would only use generic o-rings in a pinch and replace with the OEM ones ASAP. These o-rings look to be extra thick. They have to contend with the boosted pressure circa 15 - 18 PSI.
#7
I suspect that your flexible fuel line is likely fine. I would check the compression quick release joint at the fuel rail, but this evidence may have been lost as you swapped in the stuff from your parts R50. The other possibility is the injector o-rings as you're suspecting. I would only use generic o-rings in a pinch and replace with the OEM ones ASAP. These o-rings look to be extra thick. They have to contend with the boosted pressure circa 15 - 18 PSI.
- Would the o-rings off my R50's injectors work? I have a JCW.
I'm going to button everything up, and if I still have a leak then I'll look at replacing o-rings. I know new is best and these are cheap, but I have extra o-rings sitting here.
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#8
- Is this the quick release joint? (I just swapped it with my R50.)
- Would the o-rings off my R50's injectors work? I have a JCW.
I'm going to button everything up, and if I still have a leak then I'll look at replacing o-rings. I know new is best and these are cheap, but I have extra o-rings sitting here.
- Would the o-rings off my R50's injectors work? I have a JCW.
I'm going to button everything up, and if I still have a leak then I'll look at replacing o-rings. I know new is best and these are cheap, but I have extra o-rings sitting here.
#9
Thats good enough for me, I'll pull them off and give it a try. It'll get my wife to work Monday, and I can always order new rings and replace them next week to be on the safe side. Thanks!
#10
#11
Thanks! Just got back from a test drive, the larger leak seems gone, but I may need to drive longer. There's gas on and at the base of injector 2. I'll be replacing the o-rings after all..
The injectors look quite different on the cooper, but I'll have to pull them to find out. I really appreciate the help everyone!
The injectors look quite different on the cooper, but I'll have to pull them to find out. I really appreciate the help everyone!
#12
#13
After more driving, if the leak comes back I'll do the o-rings because.. what else could it be?? Injector itself will be next plan of action.