Should I be able to hear/feel the fuel pump?
#1
Should I be able to hear/feel the fuel pump?
2009 Cooper S won't start. It cranks fast and I have spark. I pulled up the back seat and checked for power at the fuel pump connector while cranking and there is power. Problem is, when I put my hand directly on the fuel pump top plate, I can't feel it running. Should I be able to, or because it's submerged in fuel and hanging from hoses, maybe it's isolating the vibration?
#3
Ok thanks, I'll listen for that tomorrow.
So I put 12 volts directly to the pump and it works. It's a very quiet hum, and it hardly vibrates at all. I tried starting the car with it hooked up that way and it didn't start. I was spraying quick start into the intake repeatedly with no results. Then I plugged the fuel pump back into the harness, tried a couple more times and just as the battery started to die, it started! I spent two days messing around, and suddenly it started normally. I don't know if it was flooded, something was frozen or what. It's been very cold here. Anyway I drove it around for an hour and filled it up with fuel, and installed a Battery Tender so it will always crank over fast. I don't have much confidence in the car right now, but that's nothing new haha.
So I put 12 volts directly to the pump and it works. It's a very quiet hum, and it hardly vibrates at all. I tried starting the car with it hooked up that way and it didn't start. I was spraying quick start into the intake repeatedly with no results. Then I plugged the fuel pump back into the harness, tried a couple more times and just as the battery started to die, it started! I spent two days messing around, and suddenly it started normally. I don't know if it was flooded, something was frozen or what. It's been very cold here. Anyway I drove it around for an hour and filled it up with fuel, and installed a Battery Tender so it will always crank over fast. I don't have much confidence in the car right now, but that's nothing new haha.
#4
High pressure fuel pump
Ok thanks, I'll listen for that tomorrow.
So I put 12 volts directly to the pump and it works. It's a very quiet hum, and it hardly vibrates at all. I tried starting the car with it hooked up that way and it didn't start. I was spraying quick start into the intake repeatedly with no results. Then I plugged the fuel pump back into the harness, tried a couple more times and just as the battery started to die, it started! I spent two days messing around, and suddenly it started normally. I don't know if it was flooded, something was frozen or what. It's been very cold here. Anyway I drove it around for an hour and filled it up with fuel, and installed a Battery Tender so it will always crank over fast. I don't have much confidence in the car right now, but that's nothing new haha.
So I put 12 volts directly to the pump and it works. It's a very quiet hum, and it hardly vibrates at all. I tried starting the car with it hooked up that way and it didn't start. I was spraying quick start into the intake repeatedly with no results. Then I plugged the fuel pump back into the harness, tried a couple more times and just as the battery started to die, it started! I spent two days messing around, and suddenly it started normally. I don't know if it was flooded, something was frozen or what. It's been very cold here. Anyway I drove it around for an hour and filled it up with fuel, and installed a Battery Tender so it will always crank over fast. I don't have much confidence in the car right now, but that's nothing new haha.
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csq33r (12-15-2017)
#5
Low pressure pump failure is extremely rare on these cars, HPFP is a possibility but have you done a compression test yet?
As it gets colder carbon buildup on the intake valves can pose a bigger issue in startup.
Most cars will still start with a dying/dead HPFP, albeit poorly and stall soon after.
As it gets colder carbon buildup on the intake valves can pose a bigger issue in startup.
Most cars will still start with a dying/dead HPFP, albeit poorly and stall soon after.
#6
Low pressure pump failure is extremely rare on these cars, HPFP is a possibility but have you done a compression test yet?
As it gets colder carbon buildup on the intake valves can pose a bigger issue in startup.
Most cars will still start with a dying/dead HPFP, albeit poorly and stall soon after.
As it gets colder carbon buildup on the intake valves can pose a bigger issue in startup.
Most cars will still start with a dying/dead HPFP, albeit poorly and stall soon after.
#7
I did the carbon cleaning today with oven cleaner, a toothbrush and a set of long picks for scraping. I sprayed oven cleaner in, then scraped and scraped, then poured boiling water in the ports. I taped a small hose into the hose of my shop vac and used that to vacuum the water out. I did this over and over till the ports and valves were clean. It makes great power now and hopefully will start better for the rest of the winter.
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