09 fjcw missing and backfiring under heavy load
#1
09 fjcw missing and backfiring under heavy load
i wanted to post this here so im not continuing to post in the half power sticky thread anymore....that problem went away with the new hpfp.
after 42 days of driving with no half power mode and new hpfp, i jump in the car to haul *** to orlando for dinner with family at the airport and now the stupid car is missing and backfiring under hard accel. if you go more than half throttle, once it hits about 3000 rpms, it starts popping and backfiring out exhaust like you hit the rev limiter. let off a little and its fine
the car is fun to drive when it rarely acts right....but man im getting tired of working on this thing
i have no codes with the torque app except a p0420.... catless DP
my inpa quit working in that 42 day time span some how...cant get it up and running so far
i have been thru everything on this car trying to get rid of the dreaded half power mode....that has had multiple causes while i was chasing it.
every time i figure out whats causing the issues, 2 other things break
i have walnut blasted twice since the summer of 16. last time maybe 5 months ago
new plugs 15k ago, all new coils as well.... 3 took a dump just from being removed from car to get at plugs
new valve cover, new turbo recirculation valve
adjusted wastegate linkage to remove most of the slop it has...
tested wastegate actuator.... is good
new vacuum pump and lines dec 2015
timing set replaced at dealer before i bought it
im going to pull intake saturday and look at intake valves again
going to go to autozone tomorrow night to get codes if i cant fix my inpa before then
im also going to attempt a fuel pressure leak down test with the torque app tomorrow, not sure it will work tho
any suggestions?
after 42 days of driving with no half power mode and new hpfp, i jump in the car to haul *** to orlando for dinner with family at the airport and now the stupid car is missing and backfiring under hard accel. if you go more than half throttle, once it hits about 3000 rpms, it starts popping and backfiring out exhaust like you hit the rev limiter. let off a little and its fine
the car is fun to drive when it rarely acts right....but man im getting tired of working on this thing
i have no codes with the torque app except a p0420.... catless DP
my inpa quit working in that 42 day time span some how...cant get it up and running so far
i have been thru everything on this car trying to get rid of the dreaded half power mode....that has had multiple causes while i was chasing it.
every time i figure out whats causing the issues, 2 other things break
i have walnut blasted twice since the summer of 16. last time maybe 5 months ago
new plugs 15k ago, all new coils as well.... 3 took a dump just from being removed from car to get at plugs
new valve cover, new turbo recirculation valve
adjusted wastegate linkage to remove most of the slop it has...
tested wastegate actuator.... is good
new vacuum pump and lines dec 2015
timing set replaced at dealer before i bought it
im going to pull intake saturday and look at intake valves again
going to go to autozone tomorrow night to get codes if i cant fix my inpa before then
im also going to attempt a fuel pressure leak down test with the torque app tomorrow, not sure it will work tho
any suggestions?
#3
no switch on cable
worked fine like 2 weeks ago. shut down laptop, no one has touched it since.
booted up to check codes, inpa initialization error 28
im at a complete standstill until i figure out how to pull the codes, and or test the fuel pump and the vanos
my torque app wont let me check the fuel pump, it shuts off the gauges on realtime info when i turn the car off
my autozones scanner wont pull the codes. im going to a different store tonight
worked fine like 2 weeks ago. shut down laptop, no one has touched it since.
booted up to check codes, inpa initialization error 28
im at a complete standstill until i figure out how to pull the codes, and or test the fuel pump and the vanos
my torque app wont let me check the fuel pump, it shuts off the gauges on realtime info when i turn the car off
my autozones scanner wont pull the codes. im going to a different store tonight
#5
my laptop only has the one usb
ive uninstalled the drivers, adapter, and programs and reinstalled exactly as before, no help
before thanksgiving, the car was randomly going into half power mode, was hard to start sometimes
then that weekend, it would start and die like 10 times before it would run. checking the fuel rail pressure with torque app showed it was low
i put a new factory hpfp and fuel pipe on the weekend after thanksgiving
starts right up, first try every try. idles fine
up until this weekend, it was running fine, no missing of any kind, just doesnt make as much boost as it used to. wastegate is toast
8-12psi on boost gauge.... maybe 14 every once in a while.
i know i need a new turbo, but thats a separate issue( i think anyway)
i just checked my fuel pressure. it is 95psi or 6.5bar with key on. 700psi at idle, and goes back to 95 psi when key is turned off. but i have no way as of yet to check it for leakdown. my app stops working with key off.
going to advance auto parts right now to see if they can pull codes on a mini
ive uninstalled the drivers, adapter, and programs and reinstalled exactly as before, no help
before thanksgiving, the car was randomly going into half power mode, was hard to start sometimes
then that weekend, it would start and die like 10 times before it would run. checking the fuel rail pressure with torque app showed it was low
i put a new factory hpfp and fuel pipe on the weekend after thanksgiving
starts right up, first try every try. idles fine
up until this weekend, it was running fine, no missing of any kind, just doesnt make as much boost as it used to. wastegate is toast
8-12psi on boost gauge.... maybe 14 every once in a while.
i know i need a new turbo, but thats a separate issue( i think anyway)
i just checked my fuel pressure. it is 95psi or 6.5bar with key on. 700psi at idle, and goes back to 95 psi when key is turned off. but i have no way as of yet to check it for leakdown. my app stops working with key off.
going to advance auto parts right now to see if they can pull codes on a mini
#7
update, i got some help with INPA.
found out my windows 10 pro defender was keeping the software from communicating
not sure how or why it worked initially, then quit?
turned off windows defender, restarted computer, works fine
so the only codes i have with INPA are p0420 and p0141
both from catless downpipe. Torque APP reads p0420 every other drive and occasionally reports p0141
car is still missing. i havent done anything else to try to find the issue
i have near white out conditions in my garage here in florida...its like 50 degrees
i dont operate in these conditions unless its absolutely neccessary
after the cold front passes, i am going to throw new plugs at the car to see if it helps
found out my windows 10 pro defender was keeping the software from communicating
not sure how or why it worked initially, then quit?
turned off windows defender, restarted computer, works fine
so the only codes i have with INPA are p0420 and p0141
both from catless downpipe. Torque APP reads p0420 every other drive and occasionally reports p0141
car is still missing. i havent done anything else to try to find the issue
i have near white out conditions in my garage here in florida...its like 50 degrees
i dont operate in these conditions unless its absolutely neccessary
after the cold front passes, i am going to throw new plugs at the car to see if it helps
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#8
spark plugs.... f my life
i read some hundred more threads, learned how much plug gap can effect performance at high boost
decided to pull my plugs and check gap....was .045 thou
bought some new bosch plugs supposedly gapped at .028...did not check them. IMHO its kinda silly to pay 10-12 bucks a plug for a few micron thick coating of iridium and then ruin it touching it with a tool.
put them in as gapped by bosch, test race
no misfires, good power again
if you are following this thread or searching for missing and backfiring under boost or over 3000 rpms try this
pull your plugs no matter how old, visual inspect for deposits, and if they look good, check the gap before you re-install them. is its a turbo car and the gap is over .030". gap them, re-install, and test race. if the problem is solved, go buy some new plugs
thanks for all replys to this thread for trying to help
i read some hundred more threads, learned how much plug gap can effect performance at high boost
decided to pull my plugs and check gap....was .045 thou
bought some new bosch plugs supposedly gapped at .028...did not check them. IMHO its kinda silly to pay 10-12 bucks a plug for a few micron thick coating of iridium and then ruin it touching it with a tool.
put them in as gapped by bosch, test race
no misfires, good power again
if you are following this thread or searching for missing and backfiring under boost or over 3000 rpms try this
pull your plugs no matter how old, visual inspect for deposits, and if they look good, check the gap before you re-install them. is its a turbo car and the gap is over .030". gap them, re-install, and test race. if the problem is solved, go buy some new plugs
thanks for all replys to this thread for trying to help
#9
Thanks for the update, yep gap is critical and you should always check the gap again if new and pre gaped as they can get bumped in shipping.
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