limp mode, chirping, 5768 code, crank pulley
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limp mode, chirping, 5768 code, crank pulley
I'm pretty sure my harmonic balancer is on its way out, but would like some tips for confirming the diagnosis/checking other possibilities before I order parts.
Car has gone into limp mode twice at full throttle/high revs (about 5000) on the freeway. Both times, it has run normally after a restart. INPA shows a fault code 5768 Electronic Throttle Control Monitor Level 2/3 Mass Air Flow Calculation. I know a few things can cause this, but I suspect the harmonic balancer is on its way out, since the car has also recently developed an intermittent rhythmic chirping sound from the left side of the engine, cycling up and down with engine speed (common at startup, usually goes away after a bit, comes back sometimes when shifting to reverse or cornering left or right). Seems like a dying crank pulley would explain both issues, but what else can/should I check before ordering a replacement?
Car has also thrown an error 312 (O2 sensor circuit high voltage, sensor 2) - is there any reason to think that might be related? That error has only occurred once, unlike the 5768 code.
Car has gone into limp mode twice at full throttle/high revs (about 5000) on the freeway. Both times, it has run normally after a restart. INPA shows a fault code 5768 Electronic Throttle Control Monitor Level 2/3 Mass Air Flow Calculation. I know a few things can cause this, but I suspect the harmonic balancer is on its way out, since the car has also recently developed an intermittent rhythmic chirping sound from the left side of the engine, cycling up and down with engine speed (common at startup, usually goes away after a bit, comes back sometimes when shifting to reverse or cornering left or right). Seems like a dying crank pulley would explain both issues, but what else can/should I check before ordering a replacement?
Car has also thrown an error 312 (O2 sensor circuit high voltage, sensor 2) - is there any reason to think that might be related? That error has only occurred once, unlike the 5768 code.
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Very common to see this with a failing crank pulley so time to upgrade to the ATI damper
https://www.waymotorworks.com/super-...ulley-r53.html
the 02 code isn't likely related, but I would fix the damper then diag from there.
https://www.waymotorworks.com/super-...ulley-r53.html
the 02 code isn't likely related, but I would fix the damper then diag from there.
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Think I might have found the problem....took the belt off and couldn't find any give, wiggle, wobble or whatnot in the crank pulley. Put the belt back on, and found a surprising amount of slack remaining until I gave the tensioner a little assist with a pry bar. Seems like this would fit the symptom? A little slip in the belt under hard acceleration, supercharger doesn't spin up properly, and we go into limp mode?
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Think I might have found the problem....took the belt off and couldn't find any give, wiggle, wobble or whatnot in the crank pulley. Put the belt back on, and found a surprising amount of slack remaining until I gave the tensioner a little assist with a pry bar. Seems like this would fit the symptom? A little slip in the belt under hard acceleration, supercharger doesn't spin up properly, and we go into limp mode?
Would like to know what is/are the cause of belt slip.
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As to how the tensioner could be failing, I assume either the spring is getting weak or something's up with the damper. I might be able to tell which it is once it's off the car. But either way, the tensioner is reluctant to return to its proper position after the spring has been compressed, so I figure it's not putting enough tension on the belt, which is then slipping under high-load conditions (i.e. high revs and open throttle).
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Thanks to everybody who contributed. I replaced the belt tensioner, the stationary pulley, and the passenger-side motor mount (because, although it hadn't collapsed, it did dump a nice squirt of oily fluid onto my hand when I removed it), and can now run wide-open-throttle all the way to redline without anything untoward happening. And the chirp-chirp-chirp is gone. VICTORY!
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