Chasing low oil pressure light issue
#1
Chasing low oil pressure light issue
Hi everyone!
So, a little background on what is going on. I bought a rebuilt engine and figured I could add some bolt ons at the same time. I have a 2009 R56 S. High flow air intake, larger fmic, IC piping resonator/noise maker delete, catless downpipe, and solid flywheel -5lbs from stock.
After getting everything put back together, and on the first test drive my low oil pressure light came on. Hooked up pressure gauge, 0 psi. Long story short, oil pump that was sent with engine was broken, replaced that. Oil light still on after warm up at idle only. Oil filter housing replaced. No change. Replaced valve cover due to crack. Runs smoother, but idles at 500 rpm and oil light still comes on once warmed up. OEM filter and full synthetic oil being used.
I'm going to use the pressure gauge again this weekend, but could my low idle be causing the OPS to set off the light?
I've flushed the engine, and changed oil several times since this issue. I'm getting plenty of oil where it needs to be. The only original parts from the old engine are the turbo/exhaust manifold, the intake manifold/TB, and most of the sensors.
So, a little background on what is going on. I bought a rebuilt engine and figured I could add some bolt ons at the same time. I have a 2009 R56 S. High flow air intake, larger fmic, IC piping resonator/noise maker delete, catless downpipe, and solid flywheel -5lbs from stock.
After getting everything put back together, and on the first test drive my low oil pressure light came on. Hooked up pressure gauge, 0 psi. Long story short, oil pump that was sent with engine was broken, replaced that. Oil light still on after warm up at idle only. Oil filter housing replaced. No change. Replaced valve cover due to crack. Runs smoother, but idles at 500 rpm and oil light still comes on once warmed up. OEM filter and full synthetic oil being used.
I'm going to use the pressure gauge again this weekend, but could my low idle be causing the OPS to set off the light?
I've flushed the engine, and changed oil several times since this issue. I'm getting plenty of oil where it needs to be. The only original parts from the old engine are the turbo/exhaust manifold, the intake manifold/TB, and most of the sensors.
#2
When that happened on my 2012 R56S, my friend told me to remove the valve cover and sort of dump the oil all over the head back and forth and side to side. I hand cranked the car so not to cause any wear on the engine. If you dont want to do that, remove the engine relay next to the ECU, then crank it.
#3
When that happened on my 2012 R56S, my friend told me to remove the valve cover and sort of dump the oil all over the head back and forth and side to side. I hand cranked the car so not to cause any wear on the engine. If you dont want to do that, remove the engine relay next to the ECU, then crank it.
#4
I always do it this way after each rebuild. Sure it takes tome to build the pressure, but at least I'm not wearing anything out. Also, I can do it while the cover is off and i can see what's going on. Cranking it with the starter will creat too much pressure and shoot the oil out the engine bay..
It is your call either method is ok but the point is with how you "dump" the oil. Give it a try!
It is your call either method is ok but the point is with how you "dump" the oil. Give it a try!
#5
I always do it this way after each rebuild. Sure it takes tome to build the pressure, but at least I'm not wearing anything out. Also, I can do it while the cover is off and i can see what's going on. Cranking it with the starter will creat too much pressure and shoot the oil out the engine bay..
It is your call either method is ok but the point is with how you "dump" the oil. Give it a try!
It is your call either method is ok but the point is with how you "dump" the oil. Give it a try!
Also, my oil filter housing looks like it has two ports for gauges, not sure which car this came from? They aren't tapped, but part of the casting.
#6
The first thing you need to try to figure out
if it’s a electrical issue
Bad oil pressure sensor
make sure the wires where not
cut/broken etc.
during the swap
Possibly try to reset the ECM
If you don’t think it’s electrical
start looking mechanical
has the car overheated
??
When you pull the valve cover
what color is the bowl of the head,
generally the n14b16
turn a wired goldish brown
when they get starved
of oil
this is kind of a weird issue to diagnose over the Internet
so don’t get to frustrated
if you don’t find what you are looking for
if it’s a electrical issue
Bad oil pressure sensor
make sure the wires where not
cut/broken etc.
during the swap
Possibly try to reset the ECM
If you don’t think it’s electrical
start looking mechanical
has the car overheated
??
When you pull the valve cover
what color is the bowl of the head,
generally the n14b16
turn a wired goldish brown
when they get starved
of oil
this is kind of a weird issue to diagnose over the Internet
so don’t get to frustrated
if you don’t find what you are looking for
#7
The first thing you need to try to figure out
if it’s a electrical issue
Bad oil pressure sensor
make sure the wires where not
cut/broken etc.
during the swap
Possibly try to reset the ECM
If you don’t think it’s electrical
start looking mechanical
has the car overheated
??
When you pull the valve cover
what color is the bowl of the head,
generally the n14b16
turn a wired goldish brown
when they get starved
of oil
this is kind of a weird issue to diagnose over the Internet
so don’t get to frustrated
if you don’t find what you are looking for
if it’s a electrical issue
Bad oil pressure sensor
make sure the wires where not
cut/broken etc.
during the swap
Possibly try to reset the ECM
If you don’t think it’s electrical
start looking mechanical
has the car overheated
??
When you pull the valve cover
what color is the bowl of the head,
generally the n14b16
turn a wired goldish brown
when they get starved
of oil
this is kind of a weird issue to diagnose over the Internet
so don’t get to frustrated
if you don’t find what you are looking for
Resetting the ECU, are you talking just disconnect the battery? Or give it some kind of hard reset?
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So the last time you
hookup your oil pressure test gauge
are you putting it in the side of the head where the oem plug is?
At operating temp
you should see 22 / 23 psi
at Idie
If you’re not seeing pressure there
even with your aftermarket gauge
definitely have a mechanical issue
possibly something blocking the oil ports
or bad pump
hookup your oil pressure test gauge
are you putting it in the side of the head where the oem plug is?
At operating temp
you should see 22 / 23 psi
at Idie
If you’re not seeing pressure there
even with your aftermarket gauge
definitely have a mechanical issue
possibly something blocking the oil ports
or bad pump
#11
So the last time you
hookup your oil pressure test gauge
are you putting it in the side of the head where the oem plug is?
At operating temp
you should see 22 / 23 psi
at Idie
If you’re not seeing pressure there
even with your aftermarket gauge
definitely have a mechanical issue
possibly something blocking the oil ports
or bad pump
hookup your oil pressure test gauge
are you putting it in the side of the head where the oem plug is?
At operating temp
you should see 22 / 23 psi
at Idie
If you’re not seeing pressure there
even with your aftermarket gauge
definitely have a mechanical issue
possibly something blocking the oil ports
or bad pump
BTW, thanks for your help.
#13
Would be nice if they had a proper oil pressure gauge, especially for an engine that's picky with oil.
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**Late update**
Alright, I'm still having the same problem. Oil pressure drops to zero after it warms up (gauge hooked up now). Valvetrain is still being oiled. No oil starvation noise. No knocking to indicate main bearings bad.
Could I have a crack in the cylinder head where the oil pressure sensor goes? Or worn bearings and engine builder never replaced?
Alright, I'm still having the same problem. Oil pressure drops to zero after it warms up (gauge hooked up now). Valvetrain is still being oiled. No oil starvation noise. No knocking to indicate main bearings bad.
Could I have a crack in the cylinder head where the oil pressure sensor goes? Or worn bearings and engine builder never replaced?
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Rpm Mini in Irving, TX rebuilt it, or supposedly. It's the third engine from them. First one had rod knock immediately, second catastrophic engine failure after 100 miles. This new one runs great besides it saying it has no oil pressure, which makes no sense if it isn't making noise or leaving metal pieces in the oil.
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