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Old 10-25-2018, 08:18 AM
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HIgh beams come on with turn signal

I have an interesting thing happening with my lighting stalk that I've not found in the archives. First I had my battery run down because the marker lights had stayed on after shut down with the light switch off and I discovered pushing the stalk forward a bit would turn them off. Then I realized that while driving with the lights off, if I use the right turn signal the high beams also come on and the high beam indicator lights up (that's how I noticed it). Sometimes if I hold the stalk forward while the right turn signal is flashing the high beam indicator goes off, but not always, and it comes back on if I stop pushing the stalk forward. The left turn signal does not activate the high beams unless I put a little rearward pressure (it doesn't take much) on the stalk.

I am wondering it there is a bad spring in the stalk that should be holding it forward with more force, or if something else is causing the high beam flash function to be too sensitive or to self-activate. Has anyone else had this problem? I am trying to train myself to always push the stalk forward when I shut down so I am not stranded with a dead battery, but it is a nuisance. Any suggestions?

BTW, I will be attending "Minis in The Qzarks" in Eureka Springs, Arkansas tomorrow; anyone from the forum going?
 
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I had this with my R50 years ago.
It probably is a weak spring or something similar.
When I got tired of it happening I swapped in a new stalk.
It was easy to do and not too pricey.

 
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X2. Replace the stalk and save yourself a lot of stress and worry and trouble going through all types of gymnastics to make your lights function properly.
 
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Originally Posted by cristo
I had this with my R50 years ago.
It probably is a weak spring or something similar.
When I got tired of it happening I swapped in a new stalk.
It was easy to do and not too pricey.
What's a good "not too pricey" source? I see a lot of "pre-owned" ones on eBay, but I don't want to buy the same problem.
 
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About $100 from most vendors (I looked at
outmotoring, ECS and Pelican).
That’s about twice what I paid a half a dozen
years ago.
$60-$70 from Rock Auto, CarId, etc.
Make sure you get the right part number for
your options (cruise control, alarm, etc.).
 
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They are under turn signals and you just need to know your options: https://www.ecstuning.com/Mini-2004-...or/Electronic/
 
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Old 10-25-2018, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cristo
About $100 from most vendors (I looked at
outmotoring, ECS and Pelican).
That’s about twice what I paid a half a dozen
years ago.
$60-$70 from Rock Auto, CarId, etc.
Make sure you get the right part number for
your options (cruise control, alarm, etc.).
OK, Thanks, It seems nothing Mini is mini-priced these days. The little locating rod in my shift **** was broken when I bought the Mini so the **** rotated easily. I tried re-afixing the rod with plastic cement which worked for awhile, but it is turning again so I thought "I'll just get a new ****". Well after a $150 shock I think I'll try the plastic bond again or just live with it.

edit: OK, I looked it up as PN 61311484333 with the on board computer button; Around $100 new from the usual suppliers, $50 used on eBay, and Rockauto in the middle at $65 plus shipping. Another 2015 thread said it is a one screw installation after you remove the covers. Guess I'll go for a new one because one fellow who tried to fix his ended up with no high beams and had to order a new one anyway. Gone are the nickle and dime days - now it is $100 and $150 days. But aren't they fun to drive!

Here's my temporary turn signal stalk "repair". Not elegant, but it may avoid another flat battery.

 

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Same Stalk Issue

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...c/61311484333/

The link above shows the stalk with OBC button option. There is another w/o the button roughly same price around $115

Started happening recently on my 04 R53.
Started with triggering brights on right turns.
Ended up draining my battery when I thought it was off.

Thanks for the fix!
Daren
 

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Has anyone had one of these switches apart?
On my car, it's very easy to put the high beams on when signaling left or right. The spring for the high-beam/low-beam is much weaker than the spring for left/right.
Is there a way to strengthen the high/low spring?
 
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Originally Posted by MVPeters
Has anyone had one of these switches apart?
On my car, it's very easy to put the high beams on when signaling left or right. The spring for the high-beam/low-beam is much weaker than the spring for left/right.
Is there a way to strengthen the high/low spring?
Nearly three years later my Mini Bungee temporary solution is still working. (see photo above) Maybe some day I'll replace the whole stalk
 
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Thanks, Phil.
I have a paper clip & a rubber band I'm going to try!
 
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I had to install a new one on the kiddos r50. got it used on allmagautoparts.com. worked like a charm. easy to replace. good YouTube vids out there
 
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Yep after a while the microswitch must wear out. I just get a new one.
 
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