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HELP! R56 sounds like WRX, Power loss

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Old 01-07-2019 | 11:31 AM
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HELP! R56 sounds like WRX, Power loss

Hello fellow Mini owners! I need some help diagnosing a problem with my R56. I have a 2009 Cooper S with a Manic Stage 2 tune, and the car now sounds like a Subaru WRX when it tries to build boost. It starts fine, idles fine, cruises fine, and builds revs just fine as long as I don’t go past 25-30ish% throttle. That’s when the car begins to sound like a Subaru (real throaty sound with significantly reduced power). This makes me believe that the coils and internals are not damaged.

I have had the tune for around 5,000 miles, and drive it very easy on most days. Oil is checked and changed regularly. Valves were walnut blasted around 10k miles ago, and I did install an oil catch can afterwards.

I was doing a pretty hard highway pull when this problem occurred, and I was running 1.4 bar of boost (20.3 PSI). However, I’ve never had a single hiccup from this car as of yet. I checked for codes, but nothing came up. For a few months before this, I started receiving intermittent warnings for an open fuel cap, but it’s always closed.. unsure if that is related to this issue.

My guess is either turbo related (as in boost leak, or perhaps damaged wastegate) or dying fuel pump? I will take a closer look at the car this week to figure it out, but does anyone have any ideas / experience with something like this? Thanks!
 
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Old 01-07-2019 | 01:14 PM
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My SWAG, similar to your guess --- wastegate or boost leak. Also, the OCC --- if the rear PCV port was blocked off, try restoring it. This part of OCC install is known to cause problems.

Hopefully you changed plugs to Manic's recommended NGK1422. They're 1 step colder and help with sustained hi perf driving. Check plugs for damage?
 
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Old 01-07-2019 | 02:32 PM
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Thank you! I’ll start there. Don’t have the spark plugs, but I’ll check the plugs anyways. If I can’t find any loose hose clamps / hoses, I’ll pull the DP and check the wastegate. If it’s bad, she’s getting one of those hybrid turbos and colder plugs
 
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Old 01-07-2019 | 05:44 PM
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We ran some tests today. Turbo is building boost and the wastegate is not stuck open. Ruled out the oil catch can, coils, plugs, and boost leak. It feels, sounds, and smells like the car is running rich. Could it be a valve problem?
 
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Old 01-07-2019 | 09:19 PM
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I had the gas cap light recently and after it reached annoyance level, I decided to check the gas tank vent valve...the line was disconnected!!!! I put the line back, and all is good now. So, take a look at the vent valve lines and make sure they're tight.
 
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