Oil on spark plugs but leak down test is good, what next?
#1
Oil on spark plugs but leak down test is good, what next?
Hi all
I have a newly acquired Mini R56 that's burning oil (smoking tail pipe, need to top up oil).
A cylinder leak down test shows minimal leak (under 10%), but spark plugs and top of the pistons are wet with oil.
Where else do these engines leak oil?
Engine is N12 with 42.000 miles.
Tips and ideas appreciated. Thank you.
All 4 spark plugs have varying degrees of oil
outside of spark plug well is clean - no external leak
Leak down test done at 30 PSI
I have a newly acquired Mini R56 that's burning oil (smoking tail pipe, need to top up oil).
A cylinder leak down test shows minimal leak (under 10%), but spark plugs and top of the pistons are wet with oil.
Where else do these engines leak oil?
Engine is N12 with 42.000 miles.
Tips and ideas appreciated. Thank you.
All 4 spark plugs have varying degrees of oil
outside of spark plug well is clean - no external leak
Leak down test done at 30 PSI
#3
Given the good leak down numbers I would suspect an issue with the crankcase vapor recovery system. This is designed to recover oil vapor from the crankcase gases, if it goes bad it'll dump a bunch of oil into the cylinders.
I'm not an expert on the N12 but I believe from discussions that this was a fairly problematic part. I think the system is incorporated into the valve cover and there's a rubber membrane that can tear. Try doing a search.
I'm not an expert on the N12 but I believe from discussions that this was a fairly problematic part. I think the system is incorporated into the valve cover and there's a rubber membrane that can tear. Try doing a search.
#4
oldbrokenwind: compression numbers were good. All four cylinders were around 15 bar (217 PSI)
Gubi: I did read that in a thread, but am not sure how to test it. I disconnected the hose at the passenger side of the valve cover and there is some oil seeping into it (should there only be vapor?) .. and the valve cover is pricey, oh my!
Can the vapor alone make the car blow smoke continuously when hot?
Gubi: I did read that in a thread, but am not sure how to test it. I disconnected the hose at the passenger side of the valve cover and there is some oil seeping into it (should there only be vapor?) .. and the valve cover is pricey, oh my!
Can the vapor alone make the car blow smoke continuously when hot?
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#6
It looks like ECS has the part for $153. That's honestly not bad.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-uro-part...127646554~uro/
They also have just the membrane for $32, so it's likely possible that you can just swap that out if it's failed.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vaico-pa...127646554~vai/
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-uro-part...127646554~uro/
They also have just the membrane for $32, so it's likely possible that you can just swap that out if it's failed.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-vaico-pa...127646554~vai/
#7
Tips are dry and burn looks eh ok. But wet top of plug means valve cover gasket and O rings need replacing....Oil is making its way into the tunnels for the plugs via valve cover gasket rings...
R56 always smoke some if at start up...The tollerances for pistons runs wide....why you can only put so much HP into those prince engines due to piston slap.
gasket kit
R56 always smoke some if at start up...The tollerances for pistons runs wide....why you can only put so much HP into those prince engines due to piston slap.
gasket kit
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@Eurothrasher: Correct, the tips are dry. But shouldn't the spark plug well show sign of leakage above the plugs, if we were to suspect the gasket.
I wonder if the result would have been different had I done the leak down test at a higher pressure, say 100 PSI, instead of the 30 PSI that I had at the shop.
I wonder if the result would have been different had I done the leak down test at a higher pressure, say 100 PSI, instead of the 30 PSI that I had at the shop.
Last edited by minitis; 05-06-2020 at 03:20 AM.
#11
I've ordered an inexpensive vacuum gauge (manometer) to measure the vacuum in the crankcase before I proceed.
For future reference these are the pressure/vacuum specifications for the different engines:
N12 : 22 mBar
N14 : 38 mBar
N16 : 36 mBar
N18 : 36 mBar
Crankcase pressure diagnostics:
https://www.import-car.com/tech-tip-...ment-pressure/
HOWTO video:
For future reference these are the pressure/vacuum specifications for the different engines:
N12 : 22 mBar
N14 : 38 mBar
N16 : 36 mBar
N18 : 36 mBar
Crankcase pressure diagnostics:
https://www.import-car.com/tech-tip-...ment-pressure/
HOWTO video:
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#14
Pretty common issue, and fortunately one of the less serious causes of oil consumption.
Valve cover looks to be pretty reasonably priced, but you may be able to just replace the membrane since they sell the part separately. Dunno how challenging that is, perhaps do a search.
Valve cover looks to be pretty reasonably priced, but you may be able to just replace the membrane since they sell the part separately. Dunno how challenging that is, perhaps do a search.
#16
Burning oil out the tailpipe? With good compression I bet it is the guide seals. Been there and done that too. Make sure you get the ones for the N14 not the W11 engine. Some suppliers don't know the difference (stem and base diameter of the N14's are smaller than the W11's). I know because I have two extra sets of W11 stem seals.
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