I removed the intercooler cover, mostly just because I don't like to have plastic in the engine compartment and think this looks a little more purposeful.

:smile:

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Dave -- the plastic is more than cosmetic. It seals against the bonnet (hood) to force air from the "mail slot" on the hood into the cooler fins. I'll bet that with the plastic removed, you have less air passing thru the cooler, and more of it will be warm, underhood air. Hence the exit air into the manifold will be warmer.

It's still winter and the air is cool, so it may make little difference. But wait till summer comes and try an A/B comparison and I'll bet you replace the plastic.

I recall Helix13 and jlm and I discussing this when we had a mid-Atlantic "Terrorize the Amish" romp across PA in November. The Helix MCS had the plastic removed. I think that the consensus was that there was a reson for the plastic.

I guess one definitive test would be to tape a temp sensor to the outside of the intercooler on the exit side, and see how the temperature changes with/without the plastic mask.

Tom

 

We actually make our own diverter to catch more air and direct it over the factory intercooler. We include our water spray nozzle to squirt the IC with water for those really hot days or for drag racing.

We have seen a 5 Degree intake temp charge drop while crusing at 50mph. The faster you go the more charge air temp drop their is. While on boost with the water spraying an easy 10 degree change is seen. Every degree that you drop the intake temp, the more the ECU advances timing. More timing more HP!!

And it looks good too!

Jeff Perrin
http://www.altaminiperformance.com
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Dave,
My wife told me what that piece was for........

 

>>We actually make our own diverter to catch more air and direct it over the factory intercooler. We include our water spray nozzle to squirt the IC with water for those really hot days or for drag racing.
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>>We have seen a 5 Degree intake temp charge drop while crusing at 50mph. The faster you go the more charge air temp drop their is. While on boost with the water spraying an easy 10 degree change is seen. Every degree that you drop the intake temp, the more the ECU advances timing. More timing more HP!!
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>>And it looks good too!
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>>Jeff Perrin
>>http://www.altaminiperformance.com
>>[img]null[/img]


Where can you get this mod??? I looked on the site but didn't find it. Any ideas???

 

I've actually started a relationship with ALTA as well. Evaluation is being worked out now. If all goes well, and the products are worthy (and they appear to be so far), I'll be distributing some of the trick stuff Adam and Jeff have been working on.

As you know, my goal is to search out the best products available, as well as work on developing new products, and then provide them to the MINI community. I'm excited about a lot of the things that are about to become available.

Stay tuned.

Randy

 

I have my cover back on.

Alta2 are you considering offering the cover seperately?

 

Randy,
What do you think of DIDs removal?
My wife didn't like it when I thought
about it......

 

Hey Dave,
You should have polished the endtanks of your IC when you had your cover off.

 

The kit comes with the Alta diverter, 2 silicone couplers, our water spray nozzle and hose. Soon to follow is an electronic controller to spray the IC when the intake charge reaches a perticular temp- RPM- boost, or combination of the 3.

Sorry about the pics on our site, but it is coming very soon. With more reasons to buy this.

 

>>>>We actually make our own diverter to catch more air and direct it over the factory intercooler. We include our water spray nozzle to squirt the IC with water for those really hot days or for drag racing.
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>>>>We have seen a 5 Degree intake temp charge drop while crusing at 50mph. The faster you go the more charge air temp drop their is. While on boost with the water spraying an easy 10 degree change is seen. Every degree that you drop the intake temp, the more the ECU advances timing. More timing more HP!!
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>>>>And it looks good too!
>>>>
>>>>Jeff Perrin
>>>>http://www.altaminiperformance.com
>>>>[img]null[/img]
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>>Where can you get this mod??? I looked on the site but didn't find it. Any ideas???
Also where do you get the purple air intake snorkel that is going to the air box??? I'd like to make that change also......

 

Could you just sit a block of dry ice on it when you are racing?
Would this work?

Or, open a CO2 output above it to fall thru it?

 

Actually the purple( its actually blue) intake hose is part of our intake that we sell. It is a custom made silicone hose that replaces the factory rubber one, and it also has a bigger ID than the factory part. Sorry we won't be selling it separately for a few more months.

Yes the dry ice trick works for drag racing, but you really can't drive down the track with it since it would block some of the IC. But the concept is the same with the water sprayer on our diverter.

 

Thanks for posting that Jeff! I got to see it in person at our rally but didn't have time to really poke around. It did seem to be quite impressive though. I take it the sprayer pulls from the windshield washer tank...or is there a seperate tank? Either or, how long does it last between fill ups? Is this manually triggered right now??

The price on this is fantastic, too! I think I heard $180 at some point. Is that still the targeted price? Very cool (hey, nice pun!).

R

 

Oh ya, and will the diverter fit the larger intercooler you're working on?

R

 

Would you guys ever consider putting instead of h20 spraying on the i/c, use n20 or C02 as a form of really cooling stuff down :smile:

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I LIKE IT, A LOT!
Shoot N20 into the whole thing and really cool it off YEAH BABY.

All I did was paint the "S" red, changing it out completely would be much more of a performance boost

 

Has anyone done the "anti naked" intercooler? I ask because my vanes are already getting bent from sucking in rocks (3 week old car) and I was wondering about adding a screen to keep the rocks out. Discuss in 5 pages or less

 

I wouldn't spray nitrous, N2O, on the intercooler since it is COMBUSTABLE. You might could try CO2, but it could get sucked into the air intake and that would be, well, NON-COMBUSTABLE.

 

Amen brother! Kinda wondering myself why there isn't some kind of filter or screen on the scoop. Some of fins on mine are bent too.

 

>>Would you guys ever consider putting instead of h20 spraying on the i/c, use n20 or C02 as a form of really cooling stuff down Be careful about getting too much CO2 under the hood -- if it gets into the air intake box, then it will starve engine for oxygen and it won't run.

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As best I under stand it NOs will only ignite in The engine.. Blowing it on to a hot header will not ignite the gas. I dont think that it is even considered an explosive gas. The warnings on the out side of the bottles are because it is under pressure. Could be wrong though. My 2 $ :smile:

 

>>I wouldn't spray nitrous, N2O, on the intercooler since it is COMBUSTABLE. You might could try CO2, but it could get sucked into the air intake and that would be, well, NON-COMBUSTABLE.
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Nitrous Oxide, N2O, is not flammable. It has a high oxygen content and when mixed with fuel, gives that fuel more oxygen to assist combustion. Using it on your intecooler is perfectly fine, barring introduction of it into the intake, inadvertantly.

DOT/IMO Shipping Name:
Nitrous oxide

Hazard Class:
2.2 (Non Flammable gas.)

Identification Number:
UN 1070

PIN:
1070

Product RQ:
None.

Shipping Label:
Nonflammable Gas and Oxidizer.

Placard (When Required):
Nonflammable Gas.

 

Daron,

NO2 is an oxidizer.

Fill a balloon with NO2 and light it with a match and then smell the hair burning off your face and the hand that the match was holding.

Darwin award winner is...

 

r u sure? i don't think that it will ignite. "non-flamable"