Has anyone had a problem like this?
#1
Has anyone had a problem like this?
When shifting, my mini seems to be getting rougher every time I drive it, like it doesn't want to go into gear...and sometimes has trouble going into reverse. I was told it is probably a worn clutch. I have 71K miles on it. If it is the clutch, I will probably end up replacing it myself although I've heard it's not such a fun job. This problem started soon after I had been driving in stop and go traffic to work every morning so I just assumed it was the clutch. Is there any advice anyone might have before I go pay $125 for diagnostics?
#2
Exactly what kind of 'rough' are you talking about? Is it hard to put it into gear or is there a little grinding noise when shifting? If that's the case, it sounds more like the transmission fluid needs changing than the clutch. MINI decided to say the fluid should last the life of the transmission but many of us have changed it and have noticed a difference in shifting smoothness. I used Redline MTL myself and am very happy.
I really don't see how the clutch would affect shifting unless the cylinder is leaking and the clutch isn't completely disengaging when you shift. When your stopped with the clutch in and in first gear, does your MINI try to move?
I really don't see how the clutch would affect shifting unless the cylinder is leaking and the clutch isn't completely disengaging when you shift. When your stopped with the clutch in and in first gear, does your MINI try to move?
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I'm trying to imagine why they used cables. Seems like something from World War I era bi-plane technology. What is used in most manual transmissions? Some sort of lever system I presume??
#9
Shifter cables
Here is an exploded view of the MCS shifter and cables.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...86&hg=25&fg=05
#10
Nice diagram norm. I have a cooper not S, do they have the same gear boxes? Because that's a pretty useful diagram. Now that I think of it, the first time I had my mini checked (over a year ago) the mechanic said there was a fluid leaking from the transmission, but I have checked the fluid level and it seems fine. I guess I'll find out exactly what's wrong when I finally decide to take it to the dealer. my warranty is up so it's coming straight out of my wallet.
#11
Most if not all front wheel drive cars are using flexible cables because of engine and transmission movement.
Here is an exploded view of the MCS shifter and cables.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...86&hg=25&fg=05
Here is an exploded view of the MCS shifter and cables.
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...86&hg=25&fg=05
#12
My opinion: it isn't the clutch. Grinding would indicate synchronizers failing, but your symptoms suggest what the other posters have said, shift linkage adjustment. Don't think cables are old fashioned, they are used in plenty of cars. If they have "stretched" I would think a simple adjustment would solve your problem, but perhaps they don't adjust and you need new cables.
It wouldn't hurt to drain and refill your gearcase but make sure you use the specified fluid, and a good brand at that. I like Redline stuff. But I don't think doing this will solve your problem.
When you get this fixed, please post your findings so we can all benefit from your experience.
Good luck.
Jim
It wouldn't hurt to drain and refill your gearcase but make sure you use the specified fluid, and a good brand at that. I like Redline stuff. But I don't think doing this will solve your problem.
When you get this fixed, please post your findings so we can all benefit from your experience.
Good luck.
Jim
#13
The OP has a Cooper, not an S. If it's an 04 or older, there's a good chance he is experiencing the early stages of a Midlands gearbox failure. Maybe somebody with some experience on this subject will chime in and give him some useful info.
I think he should start searching for an 05 or newer gearbox in a salvageyard. The Getrag is a much more robust unit.
Rawhyde
I think he should start searching for an 05 or newer gearbox in a salvageyard. The Getrag is a much more robust unit.
Rawhyde
#14
I'll certainly post a follow up after I figure out what is going on.
I have an '02 cooper. Is it common in minis for the gearbox to fail? what the hell is the problem with mini transmissions?....and judging by the cost of everything else that I've fixed/replaced it sounds like it's a pretty expensive thing to buy. Man I wish I woulda bought a new mini with a WARRANTY!
I have an '02 cooper. Is it common in minis for the gearbox to fail? what the hell is the problem with mini transmissions?....and judging by the cost of everything else that I've fixed/replaced it sounds like it's a pretty expensive thing to buy. Man I wish I woulda bought a new mini with a WARRANTY!
#15
I also have an 02. I had the tranny replaced under Factory warranty over the summer. The symptoms I was experiencing was grinding when shifting into 3rd gear. For parts cost($250) they also replaced the clutch for me.
My problem now is hard shifting. The new tranny seems really difficult to get into 1st gear (no grinding, but almost forcing the gear). After reading this thread, I am wondering if this is a linkage problem. I am also out of warranty now (ended in Sept) and wondering if they will stand by it?
-Ed
My problem now is hard shifting. The new tranny seems really difficult to get into 1st gear (no grinding, but almost forcing the gear). After reading this thread, I am wondering if this is a linkage problem. I am also out of warranty now (ended in Sept) and wondering if they will stand by it?
-Ed
I'll certainly post a follow up after I figure out what is going on.
I have an '02 cooper. Is it common in minis for the gearbox to fail? what the hell is the problem with mini transmissions?....and judging by the cost of everything else that I've fixed/replaced it sounds like it's a pretty expensive thing to buy. Man I wish I woulda bought a new mini with a WARRANTY!
I have an '02 cooper. Is it common in minis for the gearbox to fail? what the hell is the problem with mini transmissions?....and judging by the cost of everything else that I've fixed/replaced it sounds like it's a pretty expensive thing to buy. Man I wish I woulda bought a new mini with a WARRANTY!
#16
You just inspired me to go get this checked out immediately, there is no way I'm paying for a new tranny, clutch and/or labor without a warranty. What kind of grinding did you have? Like a quick "crt" sound (the way I could describe the sound that I hear once in a while if I shift to quickly) or is it more of a long grinding sound like "errrrrrrrr" gears grinding? ha.
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You just inspired me to go get this checked out immediately, there is no way I'm paying for a new tranny, clutch and/or labor without a warranty. What kind of grinding did you have? Like a quick "crt" sound (the way I could describe the sound that I hear once in a while if I shift to quickly) or is it more of a long grinding sound like "errrrrrrrr" gears grinding? ha.
It was a quick "crt". I did not think it was me.... thought I would ask them as I was there for other service... badabing "remove and replace". But now, like i said, seems to have other issues.
-Ed
#20
sorry to hijack....
Hi i have a problem also with my clutch being hard to shift into gear. especially cold getting in first. I took to the dealer and they say I need a new clutch. But it only has 44K and I dont put unnecessary stress on the clutch (riding ect...) but I do live near Sf, theres lots of stop and go. Ive had my car a year now and i dont remember it being so hard to shift. The pedal also seems hard to push in but it could be my imagination. Anyway after reading this thread I wonder if the dealer is just trying to rob me of 2700 which I wouldnt give them anyway. Would they have done the flush when I took it in? I dont remember them telling me, but I do know they should check fluids and they never mention filling it or if it was low ect...I suppose I will do that asap and see what happens it cant hurt and I have been driving already about 3 or 4 months like this.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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