Suspension Gallery! Show me your lowered MINI!
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#1802
Alright. Some do apparently the Driveshaft is longer or something. I bought coils last year and I had a crazy vibration 2.4" drop. Then I took them off and sold them.
Now I bought ST coilovers and barely anything vibrates. Only on strong second gear pulls sometimes.
What I did is I lowered it more and more one day at a time. I am already like 2.2" down probably.
Just try doing it that way. A little vibration won't hurt. It wears itself in over time.
Just lowered it some more up front in the garage. Lol pinky finger wheel gap all around.
Now I bought ST coilovers and barely anything vibrates. Only on strong second gear pulls sometimes.
What I did is I lowered it more and more one day at a time. I am already like 2.2" down probably.
Just try doing it that way. A little vibration won't hurt. It wears itself in over time.
Just lowered it some more up front in the garage. Lol pinky finger wheel gap all around.
My question is, if a GP2 on its lowest setting drives without vibration and a normal Cooper with coilovers will vibrate at the same height, would switching to a JCW driveshaft fix the problem?
Airbourne Ranger, could you adjust your H&R's to the lowest derivable setting and report if you notice any problems? If your car is problem free there may be hope for those of us afraid to go low because of potential damage. It would be interesting to see the axle angle with the suspension that low, to see if its orientation is in any way different from a normal R56.
#1803
No because you are assuming the lowest setting on the GP is the same as the lowest setting on the MCS.
Every coil is different and threads differently some have more threads than others.
From my personal experience in seeing H&Rs is they do not go very low and have limited number of threads.
Where as my JIC-Cross are threads from the top of the shock tube pretty much to the bottom with the lowest settings putting me almost entirely on the ground.
So you cant compare like that.
Every coil is different and threads differently some have more threads than others.
From my personal experience in seeing H&Rs is they do not go very low and have limited number of threads.
Where as my JIC-Cross are threads from the top of the shock tube pretty much to the bottom with the lowest settings putting me almost entirely on the ground.
So you cant compare like that.
#1804
here is a picture of the stock Bilsteins with stock H&R springs set on the lowest setting (lock nuts bottomed out).
It actually looks a little lower perched on my driveway than on level ground...It drove without vibrations nor issues- it wasnt low enough for my liking so I had the H&R coils put in
Still drives great without vibration (or tire rubs). Hope this helps
-Tim
It actually looks a little lower perched on my driveway than on level ground...It drove without vibrations nor issues- it wasnt low enough for my liking so I had the H&R coils put in
Still drives great without vibration (or tire rubs). Hope this helps
-Tim
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No because you are assuming the lowest setting on the GP is the same as the lowest setting on the MCS.
Every coil is different and threads differently some have more threads than others.
From my personal experience in seeing H&Rs is they do not go very low and have limited number of threads.
Where as my JIC-Cross are threads from the top of the shock tube pretty much to the bottom with the lowest settings putting me almost entirely on the ground.
So you cant compare like that.
Every coil is different and threads differently some have more threads than others.
From my personal experience in seeing H&Rs is they do not go very low and have limited number of threads.
Where as my JIC-Cross are threads from the top of the shock tube pretty much to the bottom with the lowest settings putting me almost entirely on the ground.
So you cant compare like that.
Do you think there is any hardware reason why a GP2 would not suffer the same vibrations as other R56's seem to?
#1809
Actually age would make perfect sense to me. Most GPs have very few miles on them at this time, where some of our MCS's have 100k on them. Their CVs are still new, still too early to tell in my opinion.
I believe the GP has the same axle and transmission setup as the JCW. IIRC the JCW and MCS axles are the same even though they may have a different part number. I have run both axles on my car throughout my previous issues.
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I have heard about less then a dozen incidences of vibration. I have seen countless R56s lowered successfully, including mine.
In some cases like Jeremy's his axle problems were long attributed to this problem. Then in the end we found out it had nothing to do with axles but instead was faulty transmission mounts.
I am pretty sure Mini is not aware anyone even has this problem and never even considered it when designing the suspension/alxes for the GP.
Last edited by Creeve; 04-18-2013 at 12:31 PM.
#1819
Correct me if I am wrong but you seem to be under the impression that vibration in lowered R56s is common. From what I have seen it is a fairly rare problem. I have heard about and seen far far more lowered R56s with zero issues then I have seen with.
I have heard about less then a dozen incidences of vibration. I have seen countless R56s lowered successfully, including mine.
In some cases like Jeremy's his axle problems were long attributed to this problem. Then in the end we found out it had nothing to do with axles but instead was faulty transmission mounts.
I am pretty sure Mini is not aware anyone even has this problem and never even considered it when designing the suspension/alxes for the GP.
I have heard about less then a dozen incidences of vibration. I have seen countless R56s lowered successfully, including mine.
In some cases like Jeremy's his axle problems were long attributed to this problem. Then in the end we found out it had nothing to do with axles but instead was faulty transmission mounts.
I am pretty sure Mini is not aware anyone even has this problem and never even considered it when designing the suspension/alxes for the GP.
I think most peoples problems might attribute to age of ball joints, cvs, etc.
Since my mounts have been fixed. Problem free in that area.
#1820
For my purposes I am simply looking to eliminate most wheel gap. I don't need to tuck tire (stock 16), or slam the car. Just want to come down about 1.5 -2 inches.
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Just to confirm. So the general consensus is that people on this page were isolated incidents? One guy said he drove the car his coilovers were on before he bought them and it was fine, then he puts them on his car and has vibrations.
I am less worried than before, thanks for all your help.
That guy with 19 axles is either made of money or pretty stupid.
I am less worried than before, thanks for all your help.
That guy with 19 axles is either made of money or pretty stupid.
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