Rake is a good thing, apparently testing has determined that amount; I didn't ask. I've been doing more research, but it's troubling to not be able to find a replacement shock listed for a 2008 MCS. Anyone have the Koni yellow part number? Also, in speaking with my installer, I will more than likely pass on the rear sway in the beginning stage on install, may not be needed. Can add it later on. I will definitely be getting the Alta PSRS and the TSW springs, not sure on the dampers yet. What sneakers should I get to go along with the Rota Slipstreams? Thanks.

 

Is there anything definative regarding the drop these springs will provide, or when they will be available?

At the moment I have Mach V springs installed; and while I actually appreciate the very firm ride, I do not like the lowering they provided. From the stock ride height my car was lowered about 1.25" in the rear (as expected) and 1.5" in the front (more than expected). This increased the rake of the car and I don't really like the look. Plus the front spoiler is so low that it scrapes frequently.

I am hoping the TSW springs in final form provide approximately 1" lowering in the rear and a bit less in the front, thus reversing (but not eliminating) some of the rake that the car has. An update on the status and the specs. would really be appreciated.

 

Bump??? Wasn't this post originally made in the middle of March? It's been almost 4 months....

Mark

 

Good things come to those who wait...

 

Yes, it was... It's taken us awhile.

Why? The rates, free length of the fronts, and shapes are VERY different than the earlier platform... So much so that we had them tested by two different places to make sure we were on the right trail. We also tested the OEM struts/shocks on a dyno... We also observed a few R56's at the autocross and on the track - at the Autocross, we noted SIGNIFICANTLY more squat at launch than on the earlier platforms! We felt that we needed more data to get them right...

The final prototypes will be on their way to us shortly - cold wound, maintains the same rate bias as the OEM springs with a bump front and rear, 1" drop in the front and 3/4" drop in the rear. We'll rinse them out thoroughly before we release them, so be patient - we won't release them until we're sure we nailed it, and springs are somewhat of a black art!

 

Appreciate hearing from you guys! It's encouraging for us "true believers," especially hearing some of the design considerations. Some of us have asked around about Koni Yellows, which seem to be the "shock of choice" with TSW springs. It appears that Yellows for the R56 will be out in the next few months. So, on the whole, it seems that things are coming together just about right, and we'll wait on patiently. By all means, keep up the good work!

 

Cool beans...I'd rather have a perfected finish product than a half-*** one any day

 

TSW...I thought the idea you had in the beginning was to take a bit of the rake out of the R56...if so why drop the front more than the rear? You guys are the pros, but I think the exact opposite would be great (drop of 5/8 - 3/4 Front, 7/8 - 1 Rear).

- GP

 

no kiddin more rake isn't going to be so popular.. BUT... having tossed my car around and experienced the traction problems and lots of lift from all the torque, and not ever had my back end come out on me, these TSW springs sound like the right formula for drop AND performance gain.

 

and sorry I didn't mean to sound like I was answering for TSW, just throwing in some amateur opinion and subscribing to thread at the same time. I want to hear what TSW has to say too.

Linear spring rates are absolutely the better way to go on the R56 so huge thumbs up on that

 

Any updates on the progress? I'm very interested in these!

 

bump

 

How about now? It's another month later.... any chance we're getting closer?

Not trying to rush perfection but it's now about 5 months later... I'm hoping to get a set of springs installed and I'm starting to look at a set of JCW's.

I'd really like another alternative.

Thanks,

Mark

 

Yeah i'm waiting on these to come out...if they are as good as they sound, and not progressive rate springs with a conservative drop i'll be all over them. Nothing out there right now besides the JCW's strikes my fancy...

 

Guess I'm not as patient... I gave up waiting.

Bought a set of JCW's from the dealer for 300 bucks.

Mark

 

I'm in the same boat... I got tired of waiting and ordered a set of BC coilovers.

 

Well I figure next month i'm doing an intake and springs...so if by the middle/end of next month TSW hasn't made any progress i'll probably just go with the JCW springs.

 

All I can say is that these springs will be worth the wait. I got rid of JCW springs on my R50 to get these TSW springs and I have never looked back.

 

I agree that they'll be quality springs but it's been 5 months since their post announcing that they'll be working on the springs. I understand it takes time to do development but the 2009 R56's are going to be out shortly (if not already) thus making the R56 3 years old.

I just didn't want to wait any longer. I'm sure those more patient will be rewarded for their wait.

Mark

 

When they finally arrive, I'm sure that these will be great springs. However, I finally got tired of waiting and ordered the JCW springs. Maybe the TSW springs will go on my next car in a few years.

 

Same here, I'm glad I got the JCW springs, they do what I want them to do... that is, help handling and lower the car.

Works perfect.


Mark

 

Yes, I know people are getting tired of waiting... I get 2-3 emails and/or PM's a week asing about them. As with our R50/R53 springs, we've got to get it right the first time, which takes time...

We have the prototypes coming now and will be installing them shortly for final testing - it'll take at least a few weeks before know we did it right.

So, apologies for the delay, but as with our other springs and suspension components, these will also be the Mutt's Nuts!

 

3rd gen prototype springs arrived today after a delay (thanks Ike and other bigger fish), with a gorgeous powdercoat job I might add...

Static measurement is 1" shorter in front and 3/4" shorter in rear, which should prove excellent in combating any unwanted squat under acceleration. We went up 1 more wire diameter in the front for this pass. Same cold wound, chromium silicon wire as always with a linear rate. I'll post rates and whatnot after we have confirmed testing went well.

These will be installed Saturday on an R56 Cooper with the sport package - we figure this will give us a good platform, since it's among the "lighter" R56 models. And yes, we'll take tons of pics!The test mule will be autocrossing and doing a track weekend before we call it good. If we did our homework right on this set, we'll have production springs in stock before the end of October!

 

Thanks for the update.

 

anxious