Suspension TSW X-Brace for R56
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TSW X-Brace for R56
Coming soon - our X-brace is in the process of being modified to work with the R56. The main issue to be tackled is clearing the exhaust system, which is different than on the R50/R53 platform. We're getting close, though, as the rest of the geometry is similar.
Hope to have a prototype here in the next few weeks for fitment...
Hope to have a prototype here in the next few weeks for fitment...
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From my site http://www.autoxcooper.com/tsw_suspension.html
TSW X-Brace for the 02-06 MINI mounts under the vehicle for better torsional rigidity. Dr. Mike gets complete credit for the ingenious design done in true grassroots motorsports style. Fabricated and welded in the USA using 7/8" 4130 Chromoly and laser cut gussets then powder coated black. The TSW X-Brace uses 4 existing bolts and installs in 10 minutes.
Why the X design? Way, way more torsional rigidity than any other design, especially those with a ladder arrangement. Our design picks up the lollipop mounting points and ties those into the front rear subframe mount - we personally feel this will provide more benefit than anything else out there. From what we gathered while spending many nights laying under the car, there's really no point in going much farther up the front subframe. There's a lot of gussets and welds up there, and it's a pretty solid piece. The weak points, in our estimation, are the rear tie points and the lollipop mounts.
The X-style brace is designed to resist the twisting motion that goes along with the torsional loading of the chassis. In other words, the suspension will react more precisely to uneven surfaces, particularly in situations where one wheel experiences a bump or dip. It's designed to tuck up as far as possible but take it easy on those nasty speed bumps!
Why the X design? Way, way more torsional rigidity than any other design, especially those with a ladder arrangement. Our design picks up the lollipop mounting points and ties those into the front rear subframe mount - we personally feel this will provide more benefit than anything else out there. From what we gathered while spending many nights laying under the car, there's really no point in going much farther up the front subframe. There's a lot of gussets and welds up there, and it's a pretty solid piece. The weak points, in our estimation, are the rear tie points and the lollipop mounts.
The X-style brace is designed to resist the twisting motion that goes along with the torsional loading of the chassis. In other words, the suspension will react more precisely to uneven surfaces, particularly in situations where one wheel experiences a bump or dip. It's designed to tuck up as far as possible but take it easy on those nasty speed bumps!
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I'm looking for the super dumbed down explanation. Thanks.
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Well, our supplier HAD started on it... but then was "interrupted" by no less than 8 Porsche race cars that needed completely custom headers, exhausts and cages... Needless to say, we dropped to the bottom of the pile.
HOWEVER, we are supposed to have the prototype by the end of next week.
Sometimes, it sucks being the little guy...
HOWEVER, we are supposed to have the prototype by the end of next week.
Sometimes, it sucks being the little guy...
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This version will have the same ERW tubing, l-brackets, and gussets as the current 1st gen production version...
Pricing should be close to the 1st gen, yes... And, we will offer a group buy on the 1st run of production braces.
There are no perceived issues at this time, as long as the aftermarket exhaust sits where the OEM one does. The 1st gen brace actually "fits" the R56, but there is interference with the OEM exhaust - thus, we had to make a couple of tweaks to the design to drop the center section.
Here's a couple of pics of the prototype (spot welded for now for fitment):
Pricing should be close to the 1st gen, yes... And, we will offer a group buy on the 1st run of production braces.
There are no perceived issues at this time, as long as the aftermarket exhaust sits where the OEM one does. The 1st gen brace actually "fits" the R56, but there is interference with the OEM exhaust - thus, we had to make a couple of tweaks to the design to drop the center section.
Here's a couple of pics of the prototype (spot welded for now for fitment):
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so im comparing tsw's brace to this one by gtspec
it looks to me that tsw's brace is more beefy because of the thickness of the bars that they are using. so because of this, would you say tsw is more "stiffer" i am no suspension guru so i want to bring this up since i can only think of three companies who are doing underbody braces. they are revspeed or revspec (i think thats one of them) tsw and gtspec. gtspec is looking to be really nice because of the cost but again... tsw is really nice and strong looking.
so the whole point of me bringing this up is this... can you tell me the benefit of a "ladder system" vs an "x-brace" system?
although i cant speak for anyone here, i think people who arent in the "know" would actually like to know.
i appreciate your input and thoughts. thanks
-nam
it looks to me that tsw's brace is more beefy because of the thickness of the bars that they are using. so because of this, would you say tsw is more "stiffer" i am no suspension guru so i want to bring this up since i can only think of three companies who are doing underbody braces. they are revspeed or revspec (i think thats one of them) tsw and gtspec. gtspec is looking to be really nice because of the cost but again... tsw is really nice and strong looking.
so the whole point of me bringing this up is this... can you tell me the benefit of a "ladder system" vs an "x-brace" system?
although i cant speak for anyone here, i think people who arent in the "know" would actually like to know.
i appreciate your input and thoughts. thanks
-nam