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Old 05-29-2009 | 11:53 PM
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Thinking BC

I am thinking about BC Coilovers... Who has 'em? I have heard good things about them, but I want to hear it from you guys.

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Old 05-30-2009 | 05:13 PM
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i'm very interested in these too

i'm hoping these would close up the wheel wells nicely when i get my bbs wheels
 
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Old 05-30-2009 | 10:06 PM
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there's a sticky in this category that has info.

here's the link just in case

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-feedback.html
 
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Old 05-31-2009 | 08:40 AM
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I'm very interested in these coilovers as well. What that thread doesn't specifically address is how much they actually drop the car. I also haven't read that entire thread so maybe it's in there somewhere. I want to run a 205/45/16 tire, but from looking a Ryephile's photos on 205/40/16, I'm afraid these won't give me the drop I'm looking for. Would I be able to have slight tuck in the rear with these coilovers combined with swift springs? I know the Cross will give me the drop I want, but with my car being strictly street driven, I'm not willing to spend that kind of money. Any opinions?
 
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Old 06-01-2009 | 07:50 AM
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Old 06-02-2009 | 04:37 AM
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I think I might just get them.
I have read enough good things about them and hardly any bad things.
 
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Old 06-02-2009 | 02:10 PM
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I did figure out that these coilovers won't give you a big drop. Maybe a little over 1.5" max. Just thought I would let you know before you decide
 
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Old 06-02-2009 | 04:41 PM
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I did figure out that these coilovers won't give you a big drop. Maybe a little over 1.5" max. Just thought I would let you know before you decide
Yeah, I read that somewhere, but 1.5" drop is more than enough to get rid of the wheel gap. I don't need it slammed! I will however probably use every bit of the 1.5 inches.

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Old 06-02-2009 | 04:57 PM
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I had a set before, they do not drop as much in the front as they do in the rear. I had it at full drop in the front and it still stood there with about a finger and a half space in the wheel well.
 
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Old 06-09-2009 | 11:57 AM
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Instead of rummaging around for the answer in old threads, maybe this is faster.

I have read that there is two generations if you will of the BCs. The second one has the pillow ball mounts on the rear and the first gen ones don't, right? Does anyone know when the second gen ones came out or anyway to tell the two of them apart?
 
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Old 06-09-2009 | 01:42 PM
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If you want my honest opinion from someone who has owned several different sets of coilovers for the MINI. Save up a little more and buy Crosses. If your able to save up a grand for the BC wait just a bit more and get the crosses. It's worth the wait.
 
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Old 06-09-2009 | 01:54 PM
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+1 That's the path I've finally decided on. There's usually some used sets on the marketplace. I don't know how often they show up though.
 
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Old 06-09-2009 | 05:51 PM
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I've looked at Cross, and I know they're great, if not the best, but thats nearly $1700 more than I can get the BCs for right now. I found some for sale and never installed for $700. Thats why I am asking all the questions, so I know what to expect if I get them. There is just know way I can shell out 2.4K for the Cross.

Thanks for the suggestion though.
 
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Old 06-09-2009 | 06:30 PM
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Can you tell if these have the pillow ball mounts?
 
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Old 06-09-2009 | 09:13 PM
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the BC's do
 
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Old 06-10-2009 | 07:57 AM
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Ahhh... Found some other good ones at WMW. http://www.waymotorworks.com/product...cat=305&page=2

I assume that because WMW has them, they are probably pretty good. Anyone else have the Megan Racing coilovers? $850 is right in my price range too. For those of you who think the BC's aren't the best idea, what do you think of these???
 
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Old 06-10-2009 | 08:11 AM
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I still run my BC's, with Swift springs on my track-focused R53. The springs that come with the BC's are utter crap, so plan right now to buy good springs, be they Hyperco, Swift, KW, Eibach racing and the like. The BC's construction is very good, however their dampers are straight rates, not digressive, so the damping is the same whether you're turning into a corner or hitting a sharp bump. For most people, they'll feel more harsh. They also have less overall stroke than stock @ 3.5" including bumpstop compression, so those that go off-roading can cross these off their list. The mounting plates on the BC's are probably some of the best around however; the pillow ***** are very nice and the rear mounts are something most coilovers don't bother with. If BC offered independant compression and rebound adjustment on a nicely digressive damper and ditched the springs they'd have a grand slam, not just a pretty nice product, IMO.
 
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Old 06-10-2009 | 08:34 AM
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So spending $700 on the BC's and ?? on new springs for them that would equal what? For $850 I can get the Megan Racing Coilovers. I fear that the BCs would be a bit more expensive in the end. So now I am thinking maybe the Megan's. Is there anything people don't like about the Megans?
 
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Old 06-10-2009 | 10:52 AM
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BC and Megans are the exact same thing. BC makes coilovers for Megan. So either way the springs will be the same.


I really do like the tophats on the BC as well. But the main reason why some of the other suspension companies to not make the rear brackets is because it is very hard to machine the rear tophats at the slant that the stock tophats are made. People have produced the flat ones made like the BC but with aggressive driving the rear shaft has the potential to snap because there is too much pressure being put onto it. Other manufacturers did not want to risk this kind of problem. BC and Megan apparently will. Anyways there is a company called endless that makes big brake kits, and they made the rear tophats for mini coilovers for race use only. Because they encountered this problem they decided to discontinue the whole project and had everyone return the item to endless.
 
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Old 06-10-2009 | 10:56 AM
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I had Megans on my 240SX and I would be more than confident recommending them for a mini driver. Seems like people like them on this site. And they are a big bang for your buck!

WHy not just get springs?
 
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Old 06-10-2009 | 02:11 PM
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Ok Ok, thanks all, but I have heard from enough of you that I should just save my money until Cross Coilovers are affordable. For now I will just put on my H&R lowering springs to get me by. Thanks everyone for you input!

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Old 06-10-2009 | 05:23 PM
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HAHA.....
I love seeing NAM members making smart decisions.
 
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Old 06-10-2009 | 09:09 PM
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Are the Cross Coilovers made of stainless steel? I live where they salt the roads pretty good and someone told me that this might be something to consider.
 
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Old 06-11-2009 | 07:42 AM
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The Cross are zinc coated, so they have good corrosion resistance. The BC's are powder coated, which is also very durable.

FWIW, the BC rear top hats have enough angular clearance that they do not bind through the suspension stroke. I don't see how the design would be a problem. Endless must've not done their homework for their top hats to clear at full compression [where the angle is greatest]
 
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Old 06-11-2009 | 10:26 AM
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Its not a clearance issue. It's the stress that's put on the shaft.
 

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