Suspension TSW or H&R Springs for lowering and handling?
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TSW or H&R Springs for lowering and handling?
Hey guys, I browsed through a few old threads but I'd love some more input. Thinking about my future mods, and I know I'm going to need some springs.
I would really like to get rid of some of the wheel gap. I would also like to stiffen up the ride a little to reduce body roll. I get the impression that TSW from Way are the favorite for handling, but don't lower much. The H&R from Alta seem to offer a nice drop but I can't find a lot of feedback on handling.
Can anyone offer insight on this? Experience with either, both, or something else?
I would really like to get rid of some of the wheel gap. I would also like to stiffen up the ride a little to reduce body roll. I get the impression that TSW from Way are the favorite for handling, but don't lower much. The H&R from Alta seem to offer a nice drop but I can't find a lot of feedback on handling.
Can anyone offer insight on this? Experience with either, both, or something else?
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On my 03 MCS I had H&R springs for 45,000 miles with the stock shocks. But the shorter springs will wear out the shock shocks a little faster.
I found the H&R springs to be good for looks and performance. I used my car as a daily driver and tracked the car three times with the H&R springs. I like the lower drop of the H&R springs better than the TSW springs.
However, from what I have read the TSW springs are very good. I have not used the TSW springs but currently have JCW springs which I suspect are very close to the TSW springs. My JCW springs are great.
I would go with the H&R springs due to the little lower drop.
I found the H&R springs to be good for looks and performance. I used my car as a daily driver and tracked the car three times with the H&R springs. I like the lower drop of the H&R springs better than the TSW springs.
However, from what I have read the TSW springs are very good. I have not used the TSW springs but currently have JCW springs which I suspect are very close to the TSW springs. My JCW springs are great.
I would go with the H&R springs due to the little lower drop.
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IMO the more mild the drop, the better the handling and ride quality for the Mini. There just isn't any bump travel to work with so the less lowering the better. My roads are terrible but the bump travel is still good for handling on smooth roads.
I really like my Konis and Tein H-tech (not s-tech, those suck). The drop is really minor, maybe 10mm with IE Fixed camber plates. The TSW's are supposed to be very good too.
I really like my Konis and Tein H-tech (not s-tech, those suck). The drop is really minor, maybe 10mm with IE Fixed camber plates. The TSW's are supposed to be very good too.
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Have you looked at Apex springs? http://apexsuspension.com//gb/index.php
I think the only US distributor I have seen them at is Moss:
http://www.mossmini.com/Shop/ViewPro...eIndexID=94666
They are linear and work well with Bilstein Sports (although they worked OK with OE dampers the Bilstein allow for a bit more travel)
I don't hear a lot about these springs on the forum and was kind of skeptical when I bought them as a stop-gap while saving for coilovers. I was so pleased I decided not to do coilovers but upgrade the dampers. They handle great, look great, and are really a great value.
I think the only US distributor I have seen them at is Moss:
http://www.mossmini.com/Shop/ViewPro...eIndexID=94666
They are linear and work well with Bilstein Sports (although they worked OK with OE dampers the Bilstein allow for a bit more travel)
I don't hear a lot about these springs on the forum and was kind of skeptical when I bought them as a stop-gap while saving for coilovers. I was so pleased I decided not to do coilovers but upgrade the dampers. They handle great, look great, and are really a great value.
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I've got the H&R's along with ALTA's 19mm rear sway bar on my R56. I like that it's dropped lower than the TSW's and as a daily driver, I'm having no issues at all.
It's that rear sway bar that will take away some body roll - I really couldn't believe how tight the car was after it was installed. But you already know that!
It's that rear sway bar that will take away some body roll - I really couldn't believe how tight the car was after it was installed. But you already know that!
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According to Apex, only the rear are linear. The front are progressive
Front: 25-20001/1VA = 28 N/mm -> Progressive spring type
Rear: 25-20002HA = 36 N/mm -> Linear spring type
Front: 25-20001/1VA = 28 N/mm -> Progressive spring type
Rear: 25-20002HA = 36 N/mm -> Linear spring type
Have you looked at Apex springs? http://apexsuspension.com//gb/index.php
I think the only US distributor I have seen them at is Moss:
http://www.mossmini.com/Shop/ViewPro...eIndexID=94666
They are linear and work well with Bilstein Sports (although they worked OK with OE dampers the Bilstein allow for a bit more travel)
I don't hear a lot about these springs on the forum and was kind of skeptical when I bought them as a stop-gap while saving for coilovers. I was so pleased I decided not to do coilovers but upgrade the dampers. They handle great, look great, and are really a great value.
I think the only US distributor I have seen them at is Moss:
http://www.mossmini.com/Shop/ViewPro...eIndexID=94666
They are linear and work well with Bilstein Sports (although they worked OK with OE dampers the Bilstein allow for a bit more travel)
I don't hear a lot about these springs on the forum and was kind of skeptical when I bought them as a stop-gap while saving for coilovers. I was so pleased I decided not to do coilovers but upgrade the dampers. They handle great, look great, and are really a great value.
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