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Old 09-27-2013 | 05:22 PM
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Sway bar and front suspension

While I'm doing work to the car I noticed I have wide open access to the front sway bar. For a performance minded car, would it be worth it to add a bigger sway bar if available ? And which one by who ? Or just add a poly urethane bushing kit and new sway bar links ? Knowing down the road it's gonna be upgraded to a bigger rear sway bar and bushings. New shocks/struts with springs. What would you guys do and what brand parts ?
 
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Old 09-28-2013 | 05:01 AM
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I wouldn't upgrade the front sway bar to a larger one, just the rear one.
That's just asking for more understeer and more wheel slip with cornering or rough roads.
Maybe poly bushings if you're doing other things and it's easy to get to, and maybe
links only if the stock ones are worn or failing, or if you have lowered it significantly or
have coilovers and are corner balancing the car and want to even out the preload on the bar.
 
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Old 09-28-2013 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cristo
I wouldn't upgrade the front sway bar to a larger one, just the rear one.
That's just asking for more understeer and more wheel slip with cornering or rough roads.
Maybe poly bushings if you're doing other things and it's easy to get to, and maybe
links only if the stock ones are worn or failing, or if you have lowered it significantly or
have coilovers and are corner balancing the car and want to even out the preload on the bar.
thank you cristo. I accidently made another thread about the same subject cause I didn't see this one post. countryboyshane said the same thing. I didn't realize these cars had such a balance issue. I do have a problem when trying to push the car really hard, the back end tries to kick out and its like it starts to drift. the tires are Dunlop's. they definitely get soft as hell once you get them hot. major improvement over the run flats and after I first installed them I noticed it immediately after they got hot. who makes a set of adjustable links or which would you recommend ? where can I get them ? and who or where can I get the bushings ?
 
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Old 09-28-2013 | 02:47 PM
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Several people make decent ones.
I got rear ones from Webb Motorsports a while ago, but Randy company is no longer running that business.
Here's one link for some good ones: http://www.detroittuned.com/detroit-...able-end-links
 
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Old 09-29-2013 | 06:46 PM
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Sprintcars,
I recommend that you find someone with experience, like Way or Chad (detroit tuned). If your driving style (and all the power that you got now) gets the rear end a bit light, then you don't want to go stiffer on the rear bar. Your instincts to stiffen the front bar will give you more understeer (or reduce the oversteer), which may be a step in the right direction.
Find a partner that has experience and can sell parts. It is nice to have a replacement rear bar, because they are adjustable, and therefore you can tune the car to your handling preferences.

Have fun,
Mike
 
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Old 09-29-2013 | 06:58 PM
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Thank mbwics , it's definitely a slippery slope with the right bar selection. Professional help will be looked into. Get it wrong under the hood and ya call a tow truck and open the tool box. Get it wrong with bars and you end up with a very expensive accordion. I seen a lot of bushings on Detroit tuned. Looks like I'll be giving them a call.
 
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Old 09-30-2013 | 04:33 AM
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I would be so bold to say there is no point in getting the 19mm rear sway bar. Just step right into the hollow h-sport hollow 25.5mm bar. It's lighter than a solid 22mm, same stiffness, and you can dial back the stiffness comparable to the 19mm. I just leave mine on the second hole setting for both street and track. There is this mantra that the H-sport is to aggressive for the street and I've never understood how. You have to be a very un-smooth driver to get into any trouble with the H-sport.

Do not touch the front bar! You don't want the car to plow more.
 
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