Rota RB's now available in 17"
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Rota RB's now available in 17"
I posted this as a new products announcement, but thought it'd also be useful here.
Rota RB, previously only available in 15", is now also a 17x7.5" wheel.
Good points: Wide width, light weight (18.2 pounds), reasonable price, wide polished lip. Fits over JCW/R56 brakes. Fits the late-model tire pressure monitoring (TPMS) sensors. And I love the Panasport/Minilite look.
Annoyances: The hub bore is 1mm larger than the Mini bore, at 57.1mm. Since you won't find a 1mm hub bore adapter, these are going to end up as a lug-centric mounting. From experience, this usually isn't a problem, but the purist in me would prefer perfect hub-centricity.
--Dan
Mach V
FastMINI.net
Rota RB, previously only available in 15", is now also a 17x7.5" wheel.
Good points: Wide width, light weight (18.2 pounds), reasonable price, wide polished lip. Fits over JCW/R56 brakes. Fits the late-model tire pressure monitoring (TPMS) sensors. And I love the Panasport/Minilite look.
Annoyances: The hub bore is 1mm larger than the Mini bore, at 57.1mm. Since you won't find a 1mm hub bore adapter, these are going to end up as a lug-centric mounting. From experience, this usually isn't a problem, but the purist in me would prefer perfect hub-centricity.
--Dan
Mach V
FastMINI.net
Last edited by Mach V Dan; 04-07-2008 at 07:34 AM. Reason: Added pics
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It might be easier just to have the centers milled out a bit (then you could use more normal hubcentric rings), but that's a pretty big hassle, too...
--Dan
Mach V
FastMINI.net
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Last edited by Mach V Dan; 09-04-2007 at 02:23 PM.
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I was running this setup (Motoforge SG-10 @ 17 x 7.5 45mm) on my '03 Cooper S up until last week. Had 214/40 Hankook R-S2 tires. Camber set at -2.25 up front and -1.75 on rear. Koni coilovers dropped 1.5 inches. No rubbing at all.
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good to hear....someone had a similiar setup and said they were mighty close to the coilovers, so i wasn't sure if the extra few mm's would cause a problem.
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Sweetness! I still wanna see a set of the silver-spoke ones on an R53.... like mine.
So Dan, how noticeable is the difference in hub bore size when putting the wheels on? 1mm? I'd bet it hardly matters. And what size tires are you running? 235/40s? They look pretty wide.
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False....it is lightweight. Check out how tire rack explains their weight classing. They have a 17 inch wheel at 20 pounds being lightweight.
So it might not compare to other lighter wheels....but if tire rack would consider it lightweight, no reason we shouldn't here as well.
So it might not compare to other lighter wheels....but if tire rack would consider it lightweight, no reason we shouldn't here as well.
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False....it is lightweight. Check out how tire rack explains their weight classing. They have a 17 inch wheel at 20 pounds being lightweight.
So it might not compare to other lighter wheels....but if tire rack would consider it lightweight, no reason we shouldn't here as well.
So it might not compare to other lighter wheels....but if tire rack would consider it lightweight, no reason we shouldn't here as well.
Your assertion that 18.2 lb wheels are lightweight simply because Tirerack "explains their weight classing" in a way as to deem it so is incorrect. Tirerack could also classify the shape of the Earth as a tetrahedron, but they would be wrong.
Tirerack is a great resource for mostly consumer-level wheels and tires and wheel/tire packages.
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S-Lites (R85): 25 pounds
Cross-Spoke (R90): 24 pounds
Bullet (R91): 20.6 pounds
Flame Spoke (R97) (I love this style!): 22 pounds
I could go on, but I don't think there's any original equipment 17" MINI wheel under 20 pounds, and most are 22 pounds and up.
Sure, the aftermarket has plenty of wheels that are lighter than 19 pounds, but many of them don't look good, don't fit this car, or are mega-bucks. In the under-$200 price range, the list gets pretty short.
I stand by my previous statement that 18.2 pounds for a 17x7.5" wheel is "light." Perhaps you are used to 14-pound forged Volks; I dunno. But in my world, 18.2 pounds is certainly better than most.
--Dan
Mach V
FastWRX.com
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Except that we do not have to be sheep who believe whatever consumer-level marketing propaganda is barfed upon us. Tirerack can explain "their weight classing" any way they wish. One cannot negotiate away the fact that 18.2 lbs is a lot of weight that will amount to a lot of rotational mass. 18.2 lbs == 18.2 lbs.
Your assertion that 18.2 lb wheels are lightweight simply because Tirerack "explains their weight classing" in a way as to deem it so is incorrect. Tirerack could also classify the shape of the Earth as a tetrahedron, but they would be wrong.
Tirerack is a great resource for mostly consumer-level wheels and tires and wheel/tire packages.
Your assertion that 18.2 lb wheels are lightweight simply because Tirerack "explains their weight classing" in a way as to deem it so is incorrect. Tirerack could also classify the shape of the Earth as a tetrahedron, but they would be wrong.
Tirerack is a great resource for mostly consumer-level wheels and tires and wheel/tire packages.
I still don't get the point of your post. In your opinion....it's not lightweight? So what? It might not be as light weight as some 14 pound wheel.....but those are generally termed super lightweight. So what do you propose be the guidlines?
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I'm not sure what your benchmark wheel is, but here are some weights for some of the OEM 17's from Mini. These are all 7" wide wheels, by the way, not 7.5".
S-Lites (R85): 25 pounds
Cross-Spoke (R90): 24 pounds
Bullet (R91): 20.6 pounds
Flame Spoke (R97) (I love this style!): 22 pounds
I could go on, but I don't think there's any original equipment 17" MINI wheel under 20 pounds, and most are 22 pounds and up.
S-Lites (R85): 25 pounds
Cross-Spoke (R90): 24 pounds
Bullet (R91): 20.6 pounds
Flame Spoke (R97) (I love this style!): 22 pounds
I could go on, but I don't think there's any original equipment 17" MINI wheel under 20 pounds, and most are 22 pounds and up.
"Better than most" cheap wheels might be a better way to describe the weight of 18.2 lb wheels.
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It really wasn't that complicated.
Whatever Tirerack says, I guess.
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