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Old 09-27-2007 | 08:19 PM
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I saw on here where someone was running boxster rims on there mini? Rally can you find it for me? Anyone?
 
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Old 09-27-2007 | 08:48 PM
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Do you mean the Porsche "phone-dials"? Konky was running them a while ago with bolt-pattern adapters, here's a pic he posted:

 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 12:10 AM
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There was also a PS MC with the M7 Front Splitter, that had the Porsche 'twist' wheels, they were also using adapters, I think that set with adapters was for sale a while back.
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 12:43 AM
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how safe are adapters?
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 04:30 AM
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i have been looking into this myself. More info would be appreciated
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Motoring
There was also a PS MC with the M7 Front Splitter, that had the Porsche 'twist' wheels, they were also using adapters, I think that set with adapters was for sale a while back.
that'd be this one:
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 05:04 AM
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Check the wheels for sale area, I believe those wheels and adaptors are still for sale....
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 06:35 AM
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i don't get it....

buy a MINI for the handling.....screw it all up with the wrong offset and huge scrub radius and messup kingpin angle....

Those spacers are not a good idea in terms of handling.
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 07:44 AM
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i don't get it....

buy a MINI for the handling.....screw it all up with the wrong offset and huge scrub radius and messup kingpin angle....

Those spacers are not a good idea in terms of handling.


Do explain more
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Bhatch
i don't get it....

buy a MINI for the handling.....screw it all up with the wrong offset and huge scrub radius and messup kingpin angle....

Those spacers are not a good idea in terms of handling.

Not everyone buys a car for its performance/handeling characteristics...
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 08:22 AM
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Not everyone buys a car for its performance/handeling characteristics...
Werd...
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 08:54 AM
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i will later when i am not at work....but i can tell you this the steering will be heavy and the electronic motor for the steering rack with have to work very hard to over come that huge increase in scrub radius.
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 10:58 AM
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i will later when i am not at work....but i can tell you this the steering will be heavy and the electronic motor for the steering rack with have to work very hard to over come that huge increase in scrub radius.
i dunno about this theory. there are plenty of autoxers/racers out there running spacers for wider stance to improve handling.

im interested in your theory. is it practiced or just theoretical?
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 11:07 AM
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There's actually been a number of threads on NAM addressing this issue. Lot's of good information, based on theory and practice. I concluded that front spacers wider than 15mm were unacceptable from a bearing wear issue. I think the Porsche wheels for sale have very large spacers (30+mm?) I run 8mm custom CNCd spacers, that fit like gloves, with no problems at all.
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 11:24 AM
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btw-the two drivers with the porsche wheels above ran them for the sake of looks more than performance minded driving.
 
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Old 09-28-2007 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by glnr13
i dunno about this theory. there are plenty of autoxers/racers out there running spacers for wider stance to improve handling.

im interested in your theory. is it practiced or just theoretical?
I run 5mm spacers on my track car, yeah no problem It is hyraulic steering. but still a little scrub inscrease never hurt anyone just makes it heavy...same with caster...alll is good but makes the steering heavy....

BUT...

have you see how much those 4 x100 to 5 x 114 spacer give to offset? like at least 25mm or more. and then the porsche wheel are +40 et in the front and probable like zero in the rear.

So basicaly your going from a car desgined for +48 ET to basicaly +25 ET or less... not good for a have such a high Et on the front...even worse if the rear is larger.
 
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Old 09-29-2007 | 04:51 AM
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well after reading this and doing soem research factory wheels or factory offset is the way to go for me
 
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Old 09-29-2007 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubdoug
well after reading this and doing soem research factory wheels or factory offset is the way to go for me
i would go as far as 40 et on a mini without worries but after that i would start to get excessive. Obviously facory offset is best, but when you get a widder wheel you need a smaller offset to space it out from the inside of the shock.
 
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Old 09-30-2007 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bhatch
Obviously facory offset is best...

Speak for yourself; I find the MINI's overall stability and steering feedback benefit greatly from a little bit of scrub radius.
 
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Old 09-30-2007 | 08:24 PM
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Speak for yourself; I find the MINI's overall stability and steering feedback benefit greatly from a little bit of scrub radius.
i would have to say it depends on your tires and the temp to compare two setups.
 
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Old 09-30-2007 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bhatch
i don't get it....

buy a MINI for the handling.....screw it all up with the wrong offset and huge scrub radius and messup kingpin angle....

Those spacers are not a good idea in terms of handling.
Uhhh cause not everyone takes their mini out to the track

Yay for narrow mindedness

My rear wheels have an offest of 9......still handles perfectly well on the street. Also....my rear wheels are wider than the fronts....gasp I would be willing to bet that my car could handle all the left and right turns at intersections as well as any car with stock offsets.

Some people mod for performance....some don't. No need to judge them....

Just as a side note..... Have you ever run wheels in lower offsets or are you just stating this stuff because you have a problem with the idea on paper? I found that spacing out my other set of wheels (15x7 et40 before spacers) offered a much more stable car on the autocross track without having any negative effects....
 

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Old 09-30-2007 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DjR53
how safe are adapters?
plenty safe. my brother in law is running some to put Mustang wheels on his SVT Lightning....it all depends on the quality of the kit.

as for the notion that spacers ruin handling...well...uh....the point of running them to fit Porsche wheels is to get the offset back to near factory spec (and change the bolt pattern obviously). If you have a 7" wheel with ET50 offset and run adaptors that are effectively 12mm, you're running a setup which even Tire Rack approves (16x7 BBS RG-F for example)
 
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Old 09-30-2007 | 08:34 PM
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plenty safe. my brother in law is running some to put Mustang wheels on his SVT Lightning....it all depends on the quality of the kit.

as for the notion that spacers ruin handling...well...uh....the point of running them to fit Porsche wheels is to get the offset back to near factory spec (and change the bolt pattern obviously). If you have a 7" wheel with ET50 offset and run adaptors that are effectively 12mm, you're running a setup which even Tire Rack approves (16x7 BBS RG-F for example)

You can't find 12mm adapters unfortunately....20mm is the smalles they have been able to go so far. Not enough room for the first set of bolts with a 12mm adapter
 
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Old 09-30-2007 | 08:36 PM
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ok.....I was speaking theoretically I haven't checked it out as I tend to use MINI app wheels
 
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Old 09-30-2007 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
Just as a side note..... Have you ever run wheels in lower offsets or are you just stating this stuff because you have a problem with the idea on paper? I found that spacing out my other set of wheels (15x7 et40 before spacers) offered a much more stable car on the autocross track without having any negative effects....
i used to run a et25 back spacing on my autocross SM civic with Lenso 13x7.5 but it was no where near stock for anything....and 15x8 on 30 et on an ITR. Everything else was a normal et for FWD.

The ITR did not like the backspacing..but 225's rub the trailing arms otherwise. It was not as crisp as with a 42et. To each his own, it's all good till somone loses FTD.
 



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