are these good tires? info on them would help toyo proxes 4 205 45 17 300 w uhpas

 

I ran these for a while. Decent tire, but definitely an all season compound, so not exactly "sticky." If you are in FL, I would sterr towards a summer tire with decent wet performance.

 

awesome thank you tazio. what about the proxes t1r?

 

or the dunlop direzza dz101

 

I have been running them. Good all-season tire which is what I deal with here in Northern Cal. They are better warm weather than the goodyear runflats that came with the car, and better then Khumo 712's. I am very happy with them, and we have a load of really great twisty roads around here

I think the t1r is a better dry weather tire, but if you need all-season, then the proxes 4 is a good choice.

 

thanks asodestrom

 

i need a good florida tire. lots of hot and rainy weather down south here. anybody have any suggestions? stock size or a 215 45 17

 

I've had two sets of these, liked them alot. I thought they did great in wet weather, and even light snow (not what you need in fl though ) Since them I've tried a few different "cheaper" tires, but havent been satisified yet.

Nik

 

I used them on my S40 a while back, not the stickiest tire around but acceptable for all season tire, quite loud after 20k though.

On Maxi, I have the T1-S, and will get the T1-R soon.

 

If you want cheap 'n sticky, check out the Kumho MX or Falken Azenis RT615. I've been very happy on my 215/45-17 Azenis.

 

I had the Proxies 4, not great in the dry... they hop like grasshoppers.

If you want a good summer tire thats good in the wet and sticky in the dry look at the BFGoodrich KDW2's or the Parada Spec 2's. Parada's run about 75-80 a pop, the KDW2's are 40-50 more.

I personally hate the 215/45/R17's, they look like monster truck tires, they're too high profile. If you don't mind a ride that's a bit more rough, look at 215/40/R17's. 205/45/R17's are close too, still a bit higher profile.

 

Not very sticky...

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....=Direzza+DZ101

Got marginal ratings on the wet tests, and ok ratings in the dry. You'd be better off with KDW's or Parada Spec-2's

 

thanks guys for the real world info

 

hey, if you're just going for "style", then go 215/35-18. 215/45-17s in a stiff sidewall tire certainly do not drive like truck tires.

 

No, but on a lowered mini you'll have rubbing issues. Also you gain a gearing advantage with 215/40's, the 45 profile is taller than stock, and will take away from performance. I could care about huge wheels, I'm running 16's right now that weigh 14 lbs each, and the lower profile tire means I have about a 7% gearing advantage.

 

Sure, if you're into off the line performance and focused on low-speed auto-x work, then definitely go with a small diameter wheel/tire for an "advantage." On the track, though, things are different. Torque is not your friend, especially in an fwd car. Lower effective drive ratios are not absolutely better. I personally dig the pre-05 close-ratio transmissions with slightly taller gearing over the later ones, especially when pulling JCW-esque power.

 

OK we have some info but need more from you-

You are in florida and have some mixed weather wet and dry. Looking for a street tire in stock 205/45-17 or maybe 215/45-17.

What is your budget? Do you have stock rims 17x7 or something else?
Do you have stock suspension?
What are your current tires and how do you like them?

What are your priorities of the following:
Performance handling for street use
Ride and noise comfort
Long treadwear

Do you plan on doing any-
Autocross
Track days or lapping sessions
Driving school events

In 205/45-17
Toyo Proxes 4 is a good street tire at a good price about $110 each.
300 treadwear and Ultra High Performance All Season. 20.5 lbs, tread depth 9/32"

Toyo T1r is a Max Performance Summer tire about $116 each.
280 treadwear, 20 lbs and tread depth 11/32".

Of these two the T1r is the better performance tire (handling and turn in response), slightly faster wearing and slightly less comfortable, not for use in any snow, good in wet or dry. Better on the track than Proxes 4.

Another possible choice is the new Falken Ziex Ze912 for $82 each
360 treadwear and Ultra High Performance All Season. 22.1 lbs, tread depth 10/32". Good value, slightly more on weight, good on handling and good on comfort and treadwear, Probably a better street tire than the Proxes 4 but 912 is a brand new tire so few have tried it yet. It replaces Falken Ze512. 912 is not as good at handling as Toyo T1r.

 

first thank you minihune . you are a great value to nam. i would like performance handling for street use. i have a 160 mile comute to work two days a week one way. i plan to take off my crown spokes and keep them for the day i trade in my mini for the new one in about two years time. i wanted info on the falken hanabi in 17x7.5 et42 .there cheap but i was wondering if they are as bad as fliks wasp i had on my 04mcs that i ate a tree in when the falken ze512 blew out and they were two months old at the time. i have a 07 mcs with stock suspension 6 speed manual. i would like to get at least 20000 miles out of the new set up. i do a lot of straight line highway driving but i love hitting the twisty lake roads around my house and the on and off ramps . i need good wet manners and i would like the car to stick like glue. ive been looking at the falken fk452 toyo t1r and maybe mich pilot exalto pe2. thank you minihune

 

and the kumho ecsta spt

 

some day i would love to get my lil mini out on the sebring raceway just for fun.

 

What did you not like about the Flik Wasps? Most of these rims are not that expensive, you get what you pay for.

Not sure why your Falken 512 blew out unless you hit a nail or the sidewall ruptured. It wasn't old or worn out. 912 is supposed to be much better than the 512.

For value the Kumho Ecsta SPT is a good choice.

In Ultra High Performance Summer tires for 215/45-17
Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 $165 each 240 treadwear 22 lbs.
Kumho Ecsta SPT $88 each 320 treadwear 22 lbs.

In Max Performance Summer tires for 215/45-17
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 $132 each 280 treadwear 22 lbs.
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx $125 each 240 treadwear 22 lbs.

For longer treadlife but still good handling in 215/45-17
In Ultra High Performance All Season tires
Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS $153 each 400 treadwear 25 lbs.
Yokohama ADVAN S.4. $170 each 400 treadwear 24 lbs.
Goodyear Eagle F1 All Season $130 each 420 treadwear 24 lbs.
Pirelli PZero Nero M&S $123 each 400 treadwear 21 lbs.
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Avon Tech M550 A/S $99 each 360 treadwear 23 lbs.
Kumho Ecsta ASX $90 each 420 treadwear 21 lbs.
**These last two are good value tires but don't handle quite to the same level as the others.

In theory you can get a tire with treadwear rating of about 300 to about 20,000 miles if you are careful and don't go nuts on hard cornering. Keep the air pressures up for the commuting chores.

You best handling is going to come from Max Performance Summer tires but you'll get your fastest treadwear as well. If you can restrain yourself you might make either tire above last for you. Both offer good handling and street manners. The GS-D3 is especially popular.

I mention the UHP All Season tires for their longer treadwear but you will give up some handling for street comfort and long life. Some tires are expensive but they will balance things well. On the other hand value priced tires can be replaced twice as often and you get fresh tires twice as often.

 

I have had them on both our Minis and like them a lot. It has proven to be a great all around tire. I have yet to get them to break free while cornering hard and fast.

 

minihune your the best thank you for the help. i think that the mich pe2 is what i will get on some oz ultraleggeras.

 

just have to wait a lil longer for them but it will be worth it.

 

I think you will find it will be worth the wait.