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WARNING: All Goodyear DS-G3 F1's now being made in China!

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Old 01-24-2008, 08:15 AM
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Here's the thread I was talking about: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=126664
 
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In every case I'd seen to date the F1's offered for around $80 were clearly advertised as much lower speed and load rating than the ones that were around $140. I suspect the mixed feelings on some might be a result of these two different tires...

I used to see some advertisers in car mags offering a gs-d3 for $79, and recall it being a lower load and speed. Darned if I can find them right now.

Found a thread where a fellow said "In a couple of months time the Eagle F1 Asymmetric will replace the Eagle F1 GSD3, with another leap forward in performance (see track and race cars this month and Performance Tuner last month). These will be mae in Germany, Luxembourg and China and the GSD3 will still be made in Thailand. At that point the job of identifying what is right and wrong will be easier!"

Off to the Goodyear to research some more...
 

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Some good news...the vital statistics of the new Chinese tires are EXACTLY the same as the German made ones. I checked the numbers on the tires (speed rating, XL load rating, max psi, tread depth, etc.) and everything is the same. I think you're getting the same tire, they're just now made in China- as opposed to the previous Chinese "knock-offs".
 
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:56 AM
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there goes another great set of tire. I have been using GS-D3s religiously for the past 3 years. Right now my .:R is need of another set of tire, I will heavily investigate before purchasing another set of GS-D3s.
 
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I ordered a set of GS-D3 from an online tire company, and received 3 made in China and 1 made in Germany. They have the same specs, but there are some perceivable differences just by looking:






Now I'm stumped... I have an appointment for Monday to get the wheels mounted and balanced (one of my current tire's inner edges is worn to the steel belt). If they'd sent me 2 and 2 of each, I could put one pair on each axle. My suspension and alignment is set up fairly aggressively - if one side wears faster than the other, the car will pull to the side with less tread. Should I send back the single German tire?
 
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Old 03-14-2008, 06:05 PM
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OH MY GOD!!!!!!

The grooves go different directions!

It would be interesting to know if it's really different, or just the rubber preservitives they use to keep the surface happy while it sits in a wearhouse.....

Put em on and let us know!

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put the one with the pink line (china) on your right side cause that line will
take a LONG time to come off if placed on the left side... especially the
rear.
 
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I'd put on two of the Chinese ones to replace your nearly blown tire. Then call them back and tell 'em that you don't want to drive sideways and they need to give you a matching pair, German or Chinese. I'd simply treat them as two different tires...
 
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Besides the color difference, the inside looks very different. Has anyone noticed how different the treads are. The pattern is the same but the grooves look MUCH wider towards the center of the tire on the german made ones. Hope that doesn't cause problems in the rain at higher speeds.

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I'm currently on my second set of these tires. My first set where the German made tires, and my second set are the Chinese tires. Now, I don't claim to be an expert in performance driving, but both sets seemed to feel and handle identically. However, the German tires lasted about 12K miles and the Chinese tires have lasted over 20K. Go figure? I'm trying a different tire next time around, but in my opinion it doesn't matter where these are made.

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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
The grooves go different directions!

It would be interesting to know if it's really different, or just the rubber preservitives they use to keep the surface happy while it sits in a wearhouse.....

Put em on and let us know!
Originally Posted by tony1athome
I'd put on two of the Chinese ones to replace your nearly blown tire. Then call them back and tell 'em that you don't want to drive sideways and they need to give you a matching pair, German or Chinese. I'd simply treat them as two different tires...
Thanks for the advice, gentlemen. The tire store wouldn't exchange the odd tire, so I'm just going to see how it wears compared to the others. If the tire wear is odd, I'm just going to have to try claiming a new pair of tires through Goodyear's warranty. If there is anything off with performance or anything else, I'll follow up here.
 
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:22 AM
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Same thing happened to me with the tirerack. They replaced the German one with a Chinese one since the Germans are no longer made. I can't believe the tire store you bought them from wouldn't swap it out! They're clearly not a matching set! So far I'm happy with them btw.
 
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I heard that "Bodies: The Exhibition" sources all it's displays from union activists who previously worked for Goodyear in China.



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