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bridgestones vs. sumitomo

hey guys, need some help deciding between two tires that i will be using for street and occasionally canyon carving. note that i am dropped by h-sport springs and using a 17x7 tire with 45 offset. the two choices are bridgestones re760 sport 205/45/17 and sumitomos htr z lll 215/45/17. thanks for the input
 
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyaboutmini
hey guys, need some help deciding between two tires that i will be using for street and occasionally canyon carving. note that i am dropped by h-sport springs and using a 17x7 tire with 45 offset. the two choices are bridgestones re760 sport 205/45/17 and sumitomos htr z lll 215/45/17. thanks for the input
Tires are better and size fits better- RE760 Sport (new tire) check with Alex@tirerack.com before you decide.

215/45-17 might rub depending on your rear negative camber and load.
 
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Old 05-21-2008, 01:24 AM
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Hankook R-S2 in 215/40/17. I love 'em!!!
 
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i have the bridgestone re760's and love them. made in japan if that interests you. they are pretty quiet, and resistant to hydroplaning. i hit a 2-4in deep puddle on the highway at about 70mph and didn't lose control fwiw. in the rain, it's hard to break them loose on corners and such. they look really cool also. i'm running 205/45/17.

while i don't have experience with the htr zIII, i had the htr+ on my 350z and that was a good tire also.

if i'm not mistaken, the re760's are a step up from the RE050's. the RE050's were a redesign of the RE040's which came stock on the 2003-2006 350z. the suspension issues, and aggressive specs of the 2003-2006 350z destroyed the RE040's in less than 8k miles. (google 'tire growl' and 350z). so bridgestone under pressure from nissan, scrambled to put together the RE050 to wear longer. seeing that you are lowered and probably have some negative camber, and knowing the above, i'd go with the bridgestones.

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I used the htrz III's as a cheap auto X tire for awhile in a 215/45/17 and all i can say is that i was very impressed. Grip was fantastic, the ride was comfortable, and they were very quiet going down the road. I really would have to recomend them they seem to be a far jump from the HTRZ II's. I just switched to a rs-2 and almost wish i had not. they have slightly more grip and i mean slightly, but as soon as they get hot they start to get greasy, the htrz's were stable and predictable.
 
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The Bridgestones have a treadwear rating of 340 opposed to 300 treadwear rating from the HTRZIII. The Sumitomo's should give you a bit more traction than the RE760's. I also have to agree on how quiet those the HTRZIII's are. Be careful because that drop may cause rubbing going with 215/45's.

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yeah, i just wanted to hear some inputs from people who have 215/45 and if they are dropped. i would like the htr z lll, but i don't see them offering 205/45/17. thanks for the inputs.
 
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The Bridgestones have a treadwear rating of 340 opposed to 300 treadwear rating from the HTRZIII.
Lets not confuse anyone here, UTQG ratings for treadware aren't universal standards, they are a subjective gradient only intended to compair tires within the same brand.

HTRZ III will dust the Re760 except in durability, where the Bridgestone will see 30k.

that drop may cause rubbing going with 215/45's.
215's will work no mods with on 7 inch withs +42 or higher. Et 35-41 may require rear bumper bracket dremel work.

Anything is possble with the effort.

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alex, have you tested the re760? hows the ride and noise on those? i have re01r's and they are way smoother and quieter than the dunlop sport max that i had, but i still want something smoother. thanks
 
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Originally Posted by crazyaboutmini
alex, have you tested the re760? hows the ride and noise on those? i have re01r's and they are way smoother and quieter than the dunlop sport max that i had, but i still want something smoother. thanks
I have, but it was recent so its not yet posted. It is about the same road noise as an Re01R - a slightly better ride, main advanatage is longer lasting on the RE760's over Re01R's

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i would do the RE760's over the HTRZIII's.
 
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ok cool, thanks alex
 
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I just ordered the RE760s. They'll be mounted Monday and I'll post up on them too if you're interested. The reviews are really good and well, they just happen to look extremely cool.
 
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yeah i finally decided on the bridgestones which arrived on friday, but i'm currently in the process of selling the r90's for something with a lil more aggresive offset and less weight. i'll post a review when i finally get them on some rims.
 
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I just ordered the RE760s. They'll be mounted Monday and I'll post up on them too if you're interested. The reviews are really good and well, they just happen to look extremely cool.
RE760s should be good, worth a try and if good for street use and longer treadlife then that would be very welcome.

Most times for street use you can't really use the RE-01R to full extent and you just wear down the tires pretty quickly.

I use the RE-01Rs for special occasions and for autocross funruns but save them otherwise and use street tires for daily use.

HTRZ III is plenty good on handling with good value- better for the more aggessive driver.
 
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Old 06-03-2008, 03:53 PM
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Got the RE760s yesterday.

The good news is they represent a huge improvement in ride quality and while I can't back this up with measured test results, they seem to have a LOT more grip than the horrible, rock-hard Goodyear RSA run-flats they replaced. They are noticeably quieter and have a great looking, asymmetric, aggressive tread pattern. More good news: so much cheaper than run-flats. $118 a tire.

The only bad news is since I opted for 215/45/17s instead of 205/45/17s (they do not offer a 215/40/17) the sidewalls aren't quite as low-profile as the Goodyears. It's apples and oranges though, different designs and widths - resulting in a bit larger aspect ratio.

Overall But I think I may opt for the 205s next time.
 
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Originally Posted by enricosonic
Got the RE760s yesterday.

The good news is they represent a huge improvement in ride quality and while I can't back this up with measured test results, they seem to have a LOT more grip than the horrible, rock-hard Goodyear RSA run-flats they replaced. They are noticeably quieter and have a great looking, asymmetric, aggressive tread pattern. More good news: so much cheaper than run-flats. $118 a tire.

The only bad news is since I opted for 215/45/17s instead of 205/45/17s (they do not offer a 215/40/17) the sidewalls aren't quite as low-profile as the Goodyears. It's apples and oranges though, different designs and widths - resulting in a bit larger aspect ratio.

Overall But I think I may opt for the 205s next time.
thats cool, good to know the re760's are good tires. i'm still looking for new rims though...
 
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Old 07-31-2008, 01:25 PM
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Mixed Styles?

I have Potenza S-03's all'round on my R56 right now, but the two up front are toast. They're no longer available.

Can I safely put two Potenza R760's at the back with the S-03's up front?

I'd rather not have to buy 4 new donuts right now if the two tires are reasonably compatible with one another, but don't want to be surprised some rainy day on the Interstate either....
 
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i would do RE050A PP's instead.
 
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Sumitomo HTR III

I put on 4 Sumitomo HTR zIIIs about 1500 miles ago, and like them. 215/45/17. No rubbing on '05 MCS with stock suspension and alignment. Ride is smoother than stock Pirelli run-flats and initial turn-in is not as sharp, as expected. I've spun the fronts on take-off, but not broken any of them free in a turn. Quieter than worn-out Pirelli run-flats. I think they look right on the 17" wheels, and on the car. The MCS is my daily driver. I drive only street, and I'm happy with them. Bought them from Tire Rack, installed locally at ashop in San Pedro, Calif., which honored the installation price quoted on the Tire Rack website.
 
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