bridgestones vs. sumitomo
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bridgestones vs. sumitomo
hey guys, need some help deciding between two tires that i will be using for street and occasionally canyon carving. note that i am dropped by h-sport springs and using a 17x7 tire with 45 offset. the two choices are bridgestones re760 sport 205/45/17 and sumitomos htr z lll 215/45/17. thanks for the input
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hey guys, need some help deciding between two tires that i will be using for street and occasionally canyon carving. note that i am dropped by h-sport springs and using a 17x7 tire with 45 offset. the two choices are bridgestones re760 sport 205/45/17 and sumitomos htr z lll 215/45/17. thanks for the input
215/45-17 might rub depending on your rear negative camber and load.
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i have the bridgestone re760's and love them. made in japan if that interests you. they are pretty quiet, and resistant to hydroplaning. i hit a 2-4in deep puddle on the highway at about 70mph and didn't lose control fwiw. in the rain, it's hard to break them loose on corners and such. they look really cool also. i'm running 205/45/17.
while i don't have experience with the htr zIII, i had the htr+ on my 350z and that was a good tire also.
if i'm not mistaken, the re760's are a step up from the RE050's. the RE050's were a redesign of the RE040's which came stock on the 2003-2006 350z. the suspension issues, and aggressive specs of the 2003-2006 350z destroyed the RE040's in less than 8k miles. (google 'tire growl' and 350z). so bridgestone under pressure from nissan, scrambled to put together the RE050 to wear longer. seeing that you are lowered and probably have some negative camber, and knowing the above, i'd go with the bridgestones.
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while i don't have experience with the htr zIII, i had the htr+ on my 350z and that was a good tire also.
if i'm not mistaken, the re760's are a step up from the RE050's. the RE050's were a redesign of the RE040's which came stock on the 2003-2006 350z. the suspension issues, and aggressive specs of the 2003-2006 350z destroyed the RE040's in less than 8k miles. (google 'tire growl' and 350z). so bridgestone under pressure from nissan, scrambled to put together the RE050 to wear longer. seeing that you are lowered and probably have some negative camber, and knowing the above, i'd go with the bridgestones.
my $.02
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I used the htrz III's as a cheap auto X tire for awhile in a 215/45/17 and all i can say is that i was very impressed. Grip was fantastic, the ride was comfortable, and they were very quiet going down the road. I really would have to recomend them they seem to be a far jump from the HTRZ II's. I just switched to a rs-2 and almost wish i had not. they have slightly more grip and i mean slightly, but as soon as they get hot they start to get greasy, the htrz's were stable and predictable.
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The Bridgestones have a treadwear rating of 340 opposed to 300 treadwear rating from the HTRZIII. The Sumitomo's should give you a bit more traction than the RE760's. I also have to agree on how quiet those the HTRZIII's are. Be careful because that drop may cause rubbing going with 215/45's.
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The Bridgestones have a treadwear rating of 340 opposed to 300 treadwear rating from the HTRZIII.
HTRZ III will dust the Re760 except in durability, where the Bridgestone will see 30k.
that drop may cause rubbing going with 215/45's.
Anything is possble with the effort.
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Most times for street use you can't really use the RE-01R to full extent and you just wear down the tires pretty quickly.
I use the RE-01Rs for special occasions and for autocross funruns but save them otherwise and use street tires for daily use.
HTRZ III is plenty good on handling with good value- better for the more aggessive driver.
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Got the RE760s yesterday.
The good news is they represent a huge improvement in ride quality and while I can't back this up with measured test results, they seem to have a LOT more grip than the horrible, rock-hard Goodyear RSA run-flats they replaced. They are noticeably quieter and have a great looking, asymmetric, aggressive tread pattern. More good news: so much cheaper than run-flats. $118 a tire.
The only bad news is since I opted for 215/45/17s instead of 205/45/17s (they do not offer a 215/40/17) the sidewalls aren't quite as low-profile as the Goodyears. It's apples and oranges though, different designs and widths - resulting in a bit larger aspect ratio.
Overall But I think I may opt for the 205s next time.
The good news is they represent a huge improvement in ride quality and while I can't back this up with measured test results, they seem to have a LOT more grip than the horrible, rock-hard Goodyear RSA run-flats they replaced. They are noticeably quieter and have a great looking, asymmetric, aggressive tread pattern. More good news: so much cheaper than run-flats. $118 a tire.
The only bad news is since I opted for 215/45/17s instead of 205/45/17s (they do not offer a 215/40/17) the sidewalls aren't quite as low-profile as the Goodyears. It's apples and oranges though, different designs and widths - resulting in a bit larger aspect ratio.
Overall But I think I may opt for the 205s next time.
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Got the RE760s yesterday.
The good news is they represent a huge improvement in ride quality and while I can't back this up with measured test results, they seem to have a LOT more grip than the horrible, rock-hard Goodyear RSA run-flats they replaced. They are noticeably quieter and have a great looking, asymmetric, aggressive tread pattern. More good news: so much cheaper than run-flats. $118 a tire.
The only bad news is since I opted for 215/45/17s instead of 205/45/17s (they do not offer a 215/40/17) the sidewalls aren't quite as low-profile as the Goodyears. It's apples and oranges though, different designs and widths - resulting in a bit larger aspect ratio.
Overall But I think I may opt for the 205s next time.
The good news is they represent a huge improvement in ride quality and while I can't back this up with measured test results, they seem to have a LOT more grip than the horrible, rock-hard Goodyear RSA run-flats they replaced. They are noticeably quieter and have a great looking, asymmetric, aggressive tread pattern. More good news: so much cheaper than run-flats. $118 a tire.
The only bad news is since I opted for 215/45/17s instead of 205/45/17s (they do not offer a 215/40/17) the sidewalls aren't quite as low-profile as the Goodyears. It's apples and oranges though, different designs and widths - resulting in a bit larger aspect ratio.
Overall But I think I may opt for the 205s next time.
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Mixed Styles?
I have Potenza S-03's all'round on my R56 right now, but the two up front are toast. They're no longer available.
Can I safely put two Potenza R760's at the back with the S-03's up front?
I'd rather not have to buy 4 new donuts right now if the two tires are reasonably compatible with one another, but don't want to be surprised some rainy day on the Interstate either....
Can I safely put two Potenza R760's at the back with the S-03's up front?
I'd rather not have to buy 4 new donuts right now if the two tires are reasonably compatible with one another, but don't want to be surprised some rainy day on the Interstate either....
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I put on 4 Sumitomo HTR zIIIs about 1500 miles ago, and like them. 215/45/17. No rubbing on '05 MCS with stock suspension and alignment. Ride is smoother than stock Pirelli run-flats and initial turn-in is not as sharp, as expected. I've spun the fronts on take-off, but not broken any of them free in a turn. Quieter than worn-out Pirelli run-flats. I think they look right on the 17" wheels, and on the car. The MCS is my daily driver. I drive only street, and I'm happy with them. Bought them from Tire Rack, installed locally at ashop in San Pedro, Calif., which honored the installation price quoted on the Tire Rack website.
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