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I wish I could say. my set came in last weekend from tirerack and just got them put on in Des Moines...too bad weather channel says it won't get below 40 for at least another 2 weeks . I got them put on at a Firestone dealer and the service manager said you can't drive them on the road above 70 degrees since the "heat" will start to deteriorate them. I've already put 400 miles on them and the studs that are on them (I call them studs, but they are rubber and kinda fat) are already 50% rubbed off. I talked to someone else from a local MINI group that has had a set for 3 years now and she said this winter is the last winter for hers before she gets a new set.