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Old 09-02-2010, 08:07 AM
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Tire Size/Type and gas mileage impact

I recently changed my tire/wheel combination from the MINI OEM 15" wheel with Conti 175/65-15 to a Rota RB 16 x 7 wheel with a General UHP 205/50 - 16. I'm seeing a 4 mpg reduction that I attribute purely to this change having made no other changes to the car.

In my research I saw no discussion about this impact, and I'm curious what others have observed when changing tires. Is the just the tire size change or have I picked a poor mpg tire. Otherwise I'm very happy with the aesthetics and handling.
 
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probably just has more to do with the revolutions per mile. when i change wheels, the more accurate my speedo gets the worst gas mileage i get.

with my 17s and overall smaller diameter, the car 'thinks' its getting many more miles per tank....thus when i put on my 16s with larger tires, the speedo is more accurate and 'thinks' im getting less miles per gallon, when in actuality it is closer to correct readings
 
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Weight matters a good deal on the MC. I reduced the wheel weight by 1.2lbs but increased the tire weight by 6lbs per corner. The mileage promptly went down 3 mpg. The rolling resistance of the tire also matters.

You have increased the tire weight by 3 lbs. The diameters are 24.0 and 24.1 so the odometer should not show significant change. Weights of OEM wheels are here:
http://www.mini2.com/forum/faq.php?f...heel_tire_tech
 
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probably just has more to do with the revolutions per mile
I doubt it, the diameter difference between the 205/50-16 and 175/65-15 is extremely small.
 
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Changes to the rolling resistance can have a huge impact on gas mileage. Besides the effect that the change in tire compound will have, going to a wider tire will definitely increase the rolling resistance, even if you used the same model tire.

When I went from the stock 175/65-15 to a 205/50-16 on my MC, I saw a decrease of about 4 MPG. Every year when I throw the stock sized snow tires on, my mileage jumps back up.
 

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I may try the Yokohama AVID ENVigor next time in a smaller size (195/55-16). According to Tire Rack it helps mpg and the smaller size may help a little too.
 
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The wider your tire is the less your mpg will be.
 
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Michelin is known for it's LRR (Low Rolling Resistance) "Green X" design. Changing from OE 195/55/16 Conti runflats tonight, to 205/55/16 Michelin Primacy MXV4's....... Expect to see an MPG gain even though stepping up a size.

 
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When I switched from the OEM Goodyear RFs to Yoko S.Drives, I lost about 3 mpg. After some research and discussion on the THMMC board, I decided it was mainly due to the grippier compound of a summer tire even though I had gone up slightly in size. I've now switched to some Conti DW tires, so still a summer compound. The Conti stuff claims they are LRR to help with gas mileage. Still a bit earlier, but I think I may have gained back 1 mpg with this latest switch.
 
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Not a bad idea to get your alignment checked, too. If the toe is off, a wider tire will have even more resistance than a narrower tire.
 
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I have 205/50/16 summer tires and I used to have 175/65/15 winter all seasons (oem conti),
now I have 195/60/15 winter snows (Michelin Pilot Alpin). My 16x7 rims
are only 15#. For summer, I used to have Bridgestone S-03 205s which were
on the heavy side and now have Dunlop SportMaxx 205s which are on
the light side of the 205/50/16 range. I'm sure the 195 snows have more
rolling resistance than the 175 Conti all seasons. Despite all these factors,
I have always seen very little change in gas mileage when I switch tires
in the late fall and early spring, and I have measured every tank since 3/03
(actual gallons per fill/actual miles driven - don't have the mileage computer
on my MINI).

+1 on checking the alignment, as Dan00Hawk said.
 
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Originally Posted by MCS Fever
Michelin is known for it's LRR (Low Rolling Resistance) "Green X" design. Changing from OE 195/55/16 Conti runflats tonight, to 205/55/16 Michelin Primacy MXV4's....... Expect to see an MPG gain even though stepping up a size.


Took first trip on the Primacy MXV4s today, 300 miles over Snoqualmie to Yakima and back over Chinook Pass - Not the best roads for MPG - Great for bumps and curves. Great ride comfort - less noise - and the icing on the cake even over these roads ... 36.5 MPG! Previous trip on the Conti's to Pullman and back 33mpg.

 
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