Wait, what? All Seasons are Runflats?
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Wait, what? All Seasons are Runflats?
Like many here, I don't care for the runflats that come standard on the 2013 MCS. So I opted for the All Season tires when I ordered my Mini.
Now I find that I have All Season Runflats. Wtf? Is that right? I was under the impression that the All season were not runflats and come with the doughnut spare. Did I just not pay enough attention or do I have a case here?
Now I find that I have All Season Runflats. Wtf? Is that right? I was under the impression that the All season were not runflats and come with the doughnut spare. Did I just not pay enough attention or do I have a case here?
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In an S, you don't have room for a spare, because your twin exhaust pipes go right through where the spare would have to be. So yes, now even the All Seasons are runflats.
Non-S models have a spare, and in 2011 and prior, you could order the car with regular tires (mine came with them) but according to our MA, now they all have runflats 'but they are better than they used to be'. So even our non-S Coupe is coming with a spare, apparently, and runflats. (???) not here yet, so I can't confirm, but that is what the MA said.
Non-S models have a spare, and in 2011 and prior, you could order the car with regular tires (mine came with them) but according to our MA, now they all have runflats 'but they are better than they used to be'. So even our non-S Coupe is coming with a spare, apparently, and runflats. (???) not here yet, so I can't confirm, but that is what the MA said.
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*sigh*
So my options are:
A) Stick with the tooth rattling runflats.
B) Purchase a new set of tires, but have no spare tire
I found a place to pickup a spare tire but it would have to live in the backseat. A somewhat less than optimal solution.
If the 15" tires are not runflat, where do they put the spare?
So my options are:
A) Stick with the tooth rattling runflats.
B) Purchase a new set of tires, but have no spare tire
I found a place to pickup a spare tire but it would have to live in the backseat. A somewhat less than optimal solution.
If the 15" tires are not runflat, where do they put the spare?
#6
Lots of people do that, we do. We carry a can of slime, a compressor and a cell phone (and AAA membership).
The Cooper (not S) is the only version (in the US) which comes with 15" wheels, it has space under the boot for a spare. The MC's exhaust exits on the right of the rear (not the center like the MCS), so there's space under the left of the rear for a spare.
If the 15" tires are not runflat, where do they put the spare?
#7
As well as, in the meantime, be sure to check your inflation pressure.
My 2012 MCS was delivered with 45+ lbs pressure in each tire!
Dialing it back to recommended pressure (34? It's on the door sticker) helped quite a bit. Still pretty harsh on impacts, though (Conti SSR All Seasons), but at least it was as good is it could be, versus over-inflated.
I'll go to regular summer tires when the snow tires / wheels come off, and use the slime / compressor / mobility kit + AAA + cell phone route next year.
My 2012 MCS was delivered with 45+ lbs pressure in each tire!
Dialing it back to recommended pressure (34? It's on the door sticker) helped quite a bit. Still pretty harsh on impacts, though (Conti SSR All Seasons), but at least it was as good is it could be, versus over-inflated.
I'll go to regular summer tires when the snow tires / wheels come off, and use the slime / compressor / mobility kit + AAA + cell phone route next year.
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#8
Most people just use the runflats and decide what to do when they wear out. Really, you can live with it. MINI couldn't sell cars if it wasn't the case. Consider that every S in the U.S. is delivered with runflats, and many non-S as well.
#9
Yes, I could live with it. I could also "live" with a Toyota Yaris rather than a MCS. I just don't want to.
#10
Easy enough to keep a spare at home.
#12
I run non-SSR Blizzaks during the winter months (far superior traction to the all season OEM tires). On my '11 R56 the companion space saver spare I picked up from Chad lived in a nice canvas bag right behind the passenger seat back. Of course, I almost never had back seat passengers or a long-legged person riding shotgun. Most of the time I completely forgot it was back there. I thought it worked great there.
The Roadster boot has plenty of room for it.
The Roadster boot has plenty of room for it.
#13
Slime and a small compressor and a patch kit or [gasp] fix-a-flat can be carried if you are wary about having a flat and no spare. I absolutely hated my runflats and got rid of them as soon as they wore out and put new tires [non-runflats] all the way around. I have had no problems with either car and have about 45k on the Cooper and 85k on the S.
#16
95 times out of a hundred
if you could use slime, f a f, bubble gum or prayer
you could also use
http://www.dynaplug.com/
I've run these plugs for thousands of miles with NO problem .... and there is nothing to mess up a modern TPMS sensor, or wash out..
One of these and a small compressor is all you need - unless you REALLY trash a tire and then ain't nothing along this line is gonna fix you. Nothing replaces a trashed tire like a spare.
and when AAA gets there they are gonna tell you they don't have your tire size!!!!! But the local tire shop can get one tomorrow.
HELLLLLOOOOOOO - consider the problem from END to END !!!!!!
if you could use slime, f a f, bubble gum or prayer
you could also use
http://www.dynaplug.com/
I've run these plugs for thousands of miles with NO problem .... and there is nothing to mess up a modern TPMS sensor, or wash out..
One of these and a small compressor is all you need - unless you REALLY trash a tire and then ain't nothing along this line is gonna fix you. Nothing replaces a trashed tire like a spare.
and when AAA gets there they are gonna tell you they don't have your tire size!!!!! But the local tire shop can get one tomorrow.
HELLLLLOOOOOOO - consider the problem from END to END !!!!!!
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*sigh*
So my options are:
A) Stick with the tooth rattling runflats.
B) Purchase a new set of tires, but have no spare tire
I found a place to pickup a spare tire but it would have to live in the backseat. A somewhat less than optimal solution.
If the 15" tires are not runflat, where do they put the spare?
So my options are:
A) Stick with the tooth rattling runflats.
B) Purchase a new set of tires, but have no spare tire
I found a place to pickup a spare tire but it would have to live in the backseat. A somewhat less than optimal solution.
If the 15" tires are not runflat, where do they put the spare?
HOWEVER, because ***** happens and I have a Clubman S I've got the included tools and prerequisite space for it, I came on here looking for a good place to buy a spare.
Another alternative is one of these: http://www.minifini.com/ShopDetail.aspx?id=16
But that means investing in a full sized wheel, tire and the look of having it on the outside of your MINI. Nothing wrong with the look (to me), especially if you have a high probability of getting a flat. A guy I know has one because he goes to construction sites daily. So he can make the change out easily enough. Plus the MINI spare can only go on the rear, so if you get a flat up front you're swapping out two wheels (that's when I'm calling roadside)
Last edited by LostDenverite; 12-11-2012 at 04:11 PM.
#18
It never dawned on me that this is a major difference between a Cooper S and a Clubman S (or JCW). The spare tire well is still present in the Clubman S as it has dual exhausts (one on each side) while the Cooper S has the twin exhausts (down the center). The spare is still the donut type which needs to be mounted only on the rear - which is more work with a front flat - but it still a workable option.
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I would un-mount the Run Flats now since they have low miles and place them in the Market Place for Sale. Priced right, you may get some money back into your pocket.
Someone will take a great deal on a set of Run Flats ! ! !
Once thats done get regular All Season tires on that Mini and the Slime and the Air Compressor into the Boot !
Someone will take a great deal on a set of Run Flats ! ! !
Once thats done get regular All Season tires on that Mini and the Slime and the Air Compressor into the Boot !
#22
Indeed, I managed to make enough selling the last set of runflats to cover 4 real tires and mounting.
#23
I would un-mount the Run Flats now since they have low miles and place them in the Market Place for Sale. Priced right, you may get some money back into your pocket.
Someone will take a great deal on a set of Run Flats ! ! !
Once thats done get regular All Season tires on that Mini and the Slime and the Air Compressor into the Boot !
Someone will take a great deal on a set of Run Flats ! ! !
Once thats done get regular All Season tires on that Mini and the Slime and the Air Compressor into the Boot !
For sale, A set of low mileage (< 500miles) All Season Runflat tires that are so F'n annoying I'm selling them off a brand new 2013 MCS to get a set of real tires.
How does that sound?
#24
sounds like you need some marketing help
#25
The Runflats on my 07 MCS absolutely suck out loud. We just bought the car used and I did not realize the S had runflats. My wife drove the car for about a month and I drove it occasionally. With winter setting in, I bought another set of wheels online and got some new Kumho snow tires. Both my wife and I think the car rides better and handles better with snow tires rather than the run flats. SNOW tires? Never experienced that before....
Now to figure out where to put the spare...
In the Spring, I'll probably ditch the run flats and get some nice summer driving tires....
Now to figure out where to put the spare...
In the Spring, I'll probably ditch the run flats and get some nice summer driving tires....