Eenie, meenie, minie, moe......
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Eenie, meenie, minie, moe......
I can't decide ! ! After researching and reading post after post after post about replacement tires for my 17" runflats I am going to ask you all what would you do.
Here are my finalists:
Kumho ECSTA Supra
Kumho Ecsta MX
Sumitomo HTR Z II
Yokohama AVS ES100
Thanks,
Scott
Here are my finalists:
Kumho ECSTA Supra
Kumho Ecsta MX
Sumitomo HTR Z II
Yokohama AVS ES100
Thanks,
Scott
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
In terms of Dry grip, your four tires ranked best to worst:
1) Kumho MX
2) ES100
3) tie between Ecsta 712 and HTR Z II (not the best choices)
Also consider the Parada Spec2, which is available in stock 205/45-17 size, and won't have rubbing potential like the ES100's or MX's
1) Kumho MX
2) ES100
3) tie between Ecsta 712 and HTR Z II (not the best choices)
Also consider the Parada Spec2, which is available in stock 205/45-17 size, and won't have rubbing potential like the ES100's or MX's
It looks like I am leaning towards one of the Yoko's.
Thanks as always Ryan.
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Yes they are. One of the reasons why I am not very thrilled with my
ES100 on my commuter. I want to get some ST115's and shut them up
a little. But they do grip quite well wet or dry...so, for your hobby cars
the ES100's will do just fine on the streets.
ES100 on my commuter. I want to get some ST115's and shut them up
a little. But they do grip quite well wet or dry...so, for your hobby cars
the ES100's will do just fine on the streets.
Originally Posted by early_apex
The ES100s are noisy and I think rather heavy. You might want to check tire weights before you buy.
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Not sure about the HTR Z II's, but I previously had ES 100's and contrary to what most here think, I'll not use them again. As far as I'm concerned they're slippery.
I now have Sumitomo HTR Z's in 215/45-17's. If you search Tire Rack or even the Sumitomo site, it won't come up as available in this size, but I have them. I think the dealer I buy through uses Tire Rack. They are very sticky. Treadwear is 160, I have 2200 miles on them, and I would guess from this point their wear will be similar to the ES 100's. IMO they don't look as good but they perform great.
With the ES 100's I ran the middle hole on my rear sway for the street, and the tight hole for AutoX. This weekend on my way home from an AutoX I forgot to change my rear sway and it handled well enough that I probably will stop changing it back and forth for street/racing. It used to be way too twitchy for the street in the tight hole. I'm no engineer or number cruncher but I attribute this to the tires. It's the only thing I've changed.
They're just a much better performing tire. Period. IMO.
Plus I think you'll find the price is right too.
I now have Sumitomo HTR Z's in 215/45-17's. If you search Tire Rack or even the Sumitomo site, it won't come up as available in this size, but I have them. I think the dealer I buy through uses Tire Rack. They are very sticky. Treadwear is 160, I have 2200 miles on them, and I would guess from this point their wear will be similar to the ES 100's. IMO they don't look as good but they perform great.
With the ES 100's I ran the middle hole on my rear sway for the street, and the tight hole for AutoX. This weekend on my way home from an AutoX I forgot to change my rear sway and it handled well enough that I probably will stop changing it back and forth for street/racing. It used to be way too twitchy for the street in the tight hole. I'm no engineer or number cruncher but I attribute this to the tires. It's the only thing I've changed.
They're just a much better performing tire. Period. IMO.
Plus I think you'll find the price is right too.
Last edited by Tomslick; 08-09-2004 at 09:42 AM.
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