Tires, Wheels, & Brakes Discussion about wheels, tires, and brakes for the new MINI.

I'm just gonna ask

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-17-2004, 10:14 AM
no_affiliation's Avatar
no_affiliation
no_affiliation is offline
5th Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 715
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'm just gonna ask

I searched and searched and searched but couldn't find a definative answer...

I'm looking to run 17X7 with et40, the question is will 225/45/17 fit?

To note, we are not lowered and do not plan on lowering... i saw posts that said yea it will fit and others that said it would rub like no tomorrow...

please help
 
  #2  
Old 11-17-2004, 01:18 PM
no_affiliation's Avatar
no_affiliation
no_affiliation is offline
5th Gear
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 715
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I had a typo i will not be running 17X17 but rather a 17X7 rim
 
  #3  
Old 11-17-2004, 03:08 PM
onasled's Avatar
onasled
onasled is offline
Banned
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Northeast CT
Posts: 3,799
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
will rub for sure!
 
  #4  
Old 11-17-2004, 03:47 PM
jaxmini's Avatar
jaxmini
jaxmini is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Doylestown Pa
Posts: 252
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No Problem

I have stock MC with that exact combo and I have had no rubbing problems. Hope that helps...
 
  #5  
Old 11-17-2004, 05:06 PM
Ryephile's Avatar
Ryephile
Ryephile is offline
OVERDRIVE
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Metro-Detroit
Posts: 9,009
Likes: 0
Received 31 Likes on 24 Posts
^^^honestly and no offense; I don't buy it. If you look on the inside of the wheel arches, you will see at least a tiny bit of rubbing marks and/or melted spots of plastic where the tire hits the "spats" on big bumps.

Yes every MINI is a bit different, however it's math, not magic. With slightly corrected camber, I've seen stock 205/45-17's on s-lites with no spacers (ET50 fyi) rub the rear spat. I've also seen on a different MINI, a 215/40-17 kumho mx (very square and wide for its size) on a 7" et37 setup with very minimal melting. So going from that - a tire that's wider and taller will hit the spat sooner, and more of it. 3mm offset change will negate the effect slightly, but it'll still rub. Not that rubbing is a bad thing - but a 225/45-17 will be a quite snug fit. I'd be more apt to run a 235/40-17, which is much wider, but also shorter. You'll no doubt have to hog out the wheel arch, but whew that would be a wide tire for the MINI!
 
  #6  
Old 11-17-2004, 06:32 PM
kenchan's Avatar
kenchan
kenchan is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 31,439
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
I think it'll rub too...especially if you bought GS-D3, S03, or Azenis.
 
  #7  
Old 11-17-2004, 09:45 PM
minihune's Avatar
minihune
minihune is offline
OVERDRIVE - Racing Champion
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Mililani, Hawaii
Posts: 15,260
Received 69 Likes on 66 Posts
Originally Posted by no_affiliation
I searched and searched and searched but couldn't find a definative answer...

I'm looking to run 17X7 with et40, the question is will 225/45/17 fit?

To note, we are not lowered and do not plan on lowering... i saw posts that said yea it will fit and others that said it would rub like no tomorrow...

please help
Everytime this question gets asked alex@tirerack always says to expect the tires to rub the wheel wells. Sometimes it rubs so much that you'll need a dremel tool to cut away the inside portions of the wheel arches so that you can use the big wheels. This is because you are trying to fit a tire which is 20mm wider than stock into the snug wheel well and there isn't much negative camber to help out.

I have a lowered MCS with 215/45-17 and I rub a little in the rear wheel wells. I have checked a similarly lowered MCS with 215/40-17 and he rubs a little. Neither is enough to pull out the dremel.

So in your case if you don't lower your car you will likely rub but maybe not all the time if you happen to be lucky and not weigh too much. Put in a few people and go over some bumps and you WILL rub.

225/45-17 will fit the rims just fine. If you have lowered your MINI then have the dremel ready in hand.

It's your call, the 215/45-17 is a better choice than the 225/45-17 in my opinion. 10mm will save you the bother of rubbing and subsequent cutting.
It's functional and looks good. Tire selection is fairly decent as well.
 
  #8  
Old 11-18-2004, 07:58 PM
jaxmini's Avatar
jaxmini
jaxmini is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Doylestown Pa
Posts: 252
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I'll have to look

Originally Posted by Ryephile
^^^honestly and no offense; I don't buy it. If you look on the inside of the wheel arches, you will see at least a tiny bit of rubbing marks and/or melted spots of plastic where the tire hits the "spats" on big bumps.

Yes every MINI is a bit different, however it's math, not magic. With slightly corrected camber, I've seen stock 205/45-17's on s-lites with no spacers (ET50 fyi) rub the rear spat. I've also seen on a different MINI, a 215/40-17 kumho mx (very square and wide for its size) on a 7" et37 setup with very minimal melting. So going from that - a tire that's wider and taller will hit the spat sooner, and more of it. 3mm offset change will negate the effect slightly, but it'll still rub. Not that rubbing is a bad thing - but a 225/45-17 will be a quite snug fit. I'd be more apt to run a 235/40-17, which is much wider, but also shorter. You'll no doubt have to hog out the wheel arch, but whew that would be a wide tire for the MINI!
Hey Ryephile, I'll have to get under there and look but I swear I have never heard my tires rub (would I?). I do have a very basic MC without a sunroof so maybe the lack of weight helps me? I will go look tomorrow, I'm curious.
 
  #9  
Old 11-18-2004, 10:34 PM
Tüls's Avatar
Tüls
Tüls is offline
Turbius Maximus
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Infinity and beyond
Posts: 4,416
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Kev....if you are really looking to get 17 x 17 ...just make sure the off set is right...that's the big deal for inner rubbing...as for turning the car...I am not sure that would work...due to the width of the new wheel...wide body kit?...heh he
 
  #10  
Old 11-21-2004, 05:49 PM
Tremec's Avatar
Tremec
Tremec is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Jacksonville Florida
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I run Kuhmo MX'es 225-45-17s on enkei RPF-1s "43mm offset the only time they rubbed was in the rear with 4 adults in the car and on a bad dip in the road Not that often I have 4 adults in the car! I drive the car hard and like the mx'es much better than the run-flats and the look great under the car.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Doc Pain
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
4
03-10-2021 04:50 AM
Camden90240
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
12
09-28-2020 12:09 PM
BossyR56
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
8
09-26-2015 05:11 PM
Doc Pain
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
1
09-15-2015 11:31 PM



Quick Reply: I'm just gonna ask



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:04 PM.