Q: 15" Wheels for track only
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Q: 15" Wheels for track only
After destroying my daily tires at a Track Day, i've been deciding if i should get a dedicated set of wheels/tires just for track days.
Budget is my #1 priority. Durability, and performance are next. Looks are way down on the list.
I think i've decided on 15", but open to other suggestions. It seems that people haven't said anything firm on any performance differences between 15, 16, 17 other than 17s for large aftermarket brakes.
One step more detailed, should i go with a 15x6.5 or a 15x7 ?
I have searched and read through old postings, and haven't been able to determine any bottom line advice. Hopefully this thread might be able to consolidate some opinions.
Thanks in advance (i'll ask about tires once we decide on wheels :smile: )
-jim
Budget is my #1 priority. Durability, and performance are next. Looks are way down on the list.
I think i've decided on 15", but open to other suggestions. It seems that people haven't said anything firm on any performance differences between 15, 16, 17 other than 17s for large aftermarket brakes.
One step more detailed, should i go with a 15x6.5 or a 15x7 ?
I have searched and read through old postings, and haven't been able to determine any bottom line advice. Hopefully this thread might be able to consolidate some opinions.
Thanks in advance (i'll ask about tires once we decide on wheels :smile: )
-jim
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From what I've seen, the general consensus is that 15s are the way to go for the track. Advantages are:
1) generally lighter than bigger wheels;
2) cheaper than bigger wheels;
3) bigger selection and availability of R-Compound tires for 15s;
4) possible gearing advantage with smaller overall diameter wheels and tires -- giving you more torque to pull out of turns.
Personally, I think 15x7 is best way to go since it gives you ability to go with wider tires (for increased contact patch and grip).
The 15" Rota Slipstream (at about $125 per wheel) is a great light wheel at a good price. You can fit Kumho Ecsta V700s (225/45/15) or Victoracers (225/50/15) on them.
1) generally lighter than bigger wheels;
2) cheaper than bigger wheels;
3) bigger selection and availability of R-Compound tires for 15s;
4) possible gearing advantage with smaller overall diameter wheels and tires -- giving you more torque to pull out of turns.
Personally, I think 15x7 is best way to go since it gives you ability to go with wider tires (for increased contact patch and grip).
The 15" Rota Slipstream (at about $125 per wheel) is a great light wheel at a good price. You can fit Kumho Ecsta V700s (225/45/15) or Victoracers (225/50/15) on them.
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I run 17s because of my BBK, though I see no reason to run smaller if it was not the issue
I run the Kosei K1. 17x7.5 with the Toyo RA1 205/40. Very light combo, lighter then many 16 and some 15 as the toyos in this size are among the lightest of all. These are "R" compounds.
GREAT track tire that will last you a good season of track days. I had mine shaved to 4/32. Here is a link to a great place to buy them at.
http://www.bmwwheels.com/
I run the Kosei K1. 17x7.5 with the Toyo RA1 205/40. Very light combo, lighter then many 16 and some 15 as the toyos in this size are among the lightest of all. These are "R" compounds.
GREAT track tire that will last you a good season of track days. I had mine shaved to 4/32. Here is a link to a great place to buy them at.
http://www.bmwwheels.com/
#5
I run 15x7 BBS RW with Kumho 710's for track use. Besides looks, there is no reason other than Big Brake Kit to run larger wheels. Cheap, light (sorta) and they will get ugly over the years.
Kosei and Rota are good choices for the budget minded.
I ran a three day weekend at Mid Ohio on stock brakes with HP+ pads. They were certainly adequate in stopping power, BMW - err- MINI has always had decent brakes.
Kosei and Rota are good choices for the budget minded.
I ran a three day weekend at Mid Ohio on stock brakes with HP+ pads. They were certainly adequate in stopping power, BMW - err- MINI has always had decent brakes.
#6
Originally Posted by bluesmini
if you haven't reached a point where your driving beyond your brakes ablity you will be soon. keep that in mind.
That's not necessarily true. There are plenty of people racing and tracking Minis with stock brakes (with good pads and possibly some ducting).
[edit] Good, in this case, means moving past the mediocre offerings of Tire Rack to a more competent pad, and either dealing with the squealing and dusting on the street, or changing your pads (and possibly rotors) at the track. This isn't anything out of the ordinary though... people running a big brake kit will have to do the same thing to get any decent performance out of them.
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Ok,
I think i might get a set of Konig Next or Rewind. They come in 15x7.0 Alot of the other Konigs come in 16x6.5 only. (Workin on a good deal on these)
Any opinions on Konig's?
If i go with 15x7.0, what tire sizes ranges can i use. (Pessimistic question, but if i would happen to quit track days and make these a set of snow tires, will a set fit)
Thanks for the input,
-jim
I think i might get a set of Konig Next or Rewind. They come in 15x7.0 Alot of the other Konigs come in 16x6.5 only. (Workin on a good deal on these)
Any opinions on Konig's?
If i go with 15x7.0, what tire sizes ranges can i use. (Pessimistic question, but if i would happen to quit track days and make these a set of snow tires, will a set fit)
Thanks for the input,
-jim
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#12
Originally Posted by Galaxie500
The 15" Rota Slipstream (at about $125 per wheel) is a great light wheel at a good price. You can fit Kumho Ecsta V700s (225/45/15) or Victoracers (225/50/15) on them.
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Originally Posted by Aaron_NH-MCS
Galaxie... would you need any fender trimming to clear the 225/50? especially on a stock suspension? I have a set of Yoko ES100s that I'm a little hesitant to put on.
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ATS Comp Lite in 15x7 is about 13 lbs and around $100 each. You can choose silver, anthracite, and bronze too I think. I have a set in 35mm offset but have not tried fitting it to a Mini yet (still on order). Not sure if it will rub, nor do I know if the 11.75" Wilwoods would fit under it.
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