I have an MCS with 16 inch non-runflat tires. Anybody using a Honda Civic doughnut spare tire/wheel?

 

I use Honda Civic 15" steelies for winter use. they are fine.

 

I don't think a civic spare is going to clear the front brakes. At a minimum, you'll need whatever size spare the Integra uses.

 

Thanks on the steelies but they are regular size. I want to stow behind pasngr. seat. Thought a doughnut spare might be a solution. Mini spare is expensive.

 

I tried a couple Honda spares and could not get them to fit over my brakes. I don't know which model/year they came from, but I gave up after two.

 

It's more work, but you can use that spare. If you get a flat in the front wheel, rotate the rear wheel to the front, then put the compact spare in the rear.

A coworker of mine has an S2K, and he was telling me that is what he would have to do with his factory spare.

Just get one of those exaust powered bag jacks to lift both sides of the car, and a DeWalt 18v cordless impact gun, and you'll be done in no time.

Dave.

 

I did my testing on the rear and it did not clear the brake caliper.

 

my wheels are from an 04 civic that came with 15" steelies. they clear the front brakes perfectly fine

 

i don't have a civic spare, but i did get a spare off a late 90's vw jetta. 4x100, 125/80/15 size(closer to stock than mini spare). the only bad thing is the centerbore is 57.1mm instead of 56.1mm. I doubt its enough of a difference to cause any safety issue especially since it's just for temporary low speed use.

 

Will stock MINI wheels fit a Honda Civic? I know the offset isn't perfect, but I forget the centerbore, maybe they'd have to be shaved a bit.

 

Your just running on your lug bolts, the entire weight and transitional forces from your mini.

Alex

 

So Alex. What's the lightest and cheapest way to go? I've got the non-runflats. Don't want to wait for Mini roadside assistance in the middle of the night somewhere and don't trust fix-a-flat and an air compressor. Isn't there some little cost-effective doughnut type solution that can fit behind the passenger seat so as not to become a missle in a panic stop?

 

Good ?,
I've got a beater '86 CRX that needs rims and tires, I've got a set of 15" MINI Holies, will they work?

 

Thanks for your interest, but Mini holies work, but they take up more space than a doughnut. I've heard of people putting spares in a bag behind the passenger seat, but I was thinking of something thinner in case I carry a person with long legs.

 

Excuse my ignorance here, I know you know a whole lot more about the subject than i do. Do you mean to tell me that the entire weight of the car is supported by the little ring on the hub that goes less than 1/4" into the wheel surface? I was under the impression that the purpose of size matching the hubs was to ensure that the wheel is properly mounted as it is very easy to improperly align the wheels on the hub without it and as a result, you could get an uneven amount of force across the surface of the hub/wheel causing vibration, lugs backing out, etc. The lugs also have to be able to handle a massive amount of force since anytime you stop the car, a good portion of the rotational force would be put on the lugs themselves. I'd be very surprised if the lugs weren't strong enough to support the wheel at low speeds for a short distance.

--Jeff--

 

I disagree - the lugs function has 1 cingular purpose to act in a team of 4 or more as a horizontal clamping force. 4 baby vises keeping the wheel centered on the hub. Tigened by stretching the bolt along its lenth.

Plastic hub rings are totaly acceptable (or small metal for that matter), the only time you'd damage them is upon install, or on abusive track ( high brake heat conditions). They fit tightly so there is no play when torqued on.

Alex

 

The hub flange supports 0% of the car's weight anyway. The usefulness of hubcentricity ends as soon as the wheel is installed.

[edit] I believe Alex is agreeing with this point, although he's being awfully unclear about it.

There are plenty of cars on the market that do not come with hubcentric wheels and they somehow manage to drive 100K miles without the wheels falling off.

 

If the lugs only purpose was to keep the wheel secured to the surface of the hub, then what would stop the hub from spinning inside the wheel when you step on the gas or what would stop the hub/brake from locking while the wheel spins on the hub when hitting the brakes. Most of the force would be put against the lugs since the wheel can spin freely when sitting on the hub w/ no lugs on(even when using the stock rims which have the same centerbore as the hub).

 

Friction - the torque from the lugs pulls the wheel against the hub with quite a bit of force.

In reality, I imagine the picture isn't so clear - there is probably some combination of lateral force on the lugs and friction between the wheel and hub that keep the hub and wheel turning together.

 

Well, all i can say is that makes a whole lot of sense. I hadn't even though of it that way. Thanks.

--Jeff--

 

Alex? Anyone? Someone?

 

You can use mini rims on a crx. it has the same bolt pattern and centerbore. The only possible issue would be if for some reason the lug nuts didn't fit properly, but if that was the case, you could just go out and get another set for not much money

 

Actually, since the mini uses wheel bolts and the Honda uses nuts, there may be a slight problem.

The Mini's bolts are 17mm, so Mini puts a very small bore in the wheel. The Honda will use, I don't know, 19mm or 21mm bolts. These bolts will more than likely fit into the bore on the wheel, BUT getting a 19mm-21mm socket in there too might be a bit of a squeeze.

It should be easy enough to check. Grab your 19mm or 21mm socket, and see if it fits in there.